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Subject: PP2014 V4 Clothes Not Fitting


Glen ( ) posted Sun, 24 January 2016 at 5:28 PM · edited Sat, 09 November 2024 at 1:35 AM

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Hi folks,

I've made a very petite character using the V4 base and morphs from various places, including Lali's Bits and the Shape of a Woman height morphs. She is considerably shorter than the standard V4 and has very petite breasts. I've been facing a lot of problems getting clothing to fit her. I've tried copying morphs from her to the clothing, but all it does is scrunch the clothing up. I've tried the morph tool but it's doing much of the same thing and I've tried the fitting room, but it appears to pull a lot of clothing items apart at the seams.

Is there a script out there, at all? Can anyone help, please?

I've been saying it for absolutely ages; Poser desperately needs something like Marvellous Designer implemented into it, where we can have real-time dynamics and manually adjust clothing items.

Here's Kim next to the standard V4.2

kim problem 001.png

With a little side profile to properly show her cup size

kim problem 002.png

Thanks folks,

Glen.

I'm running Win 10 Pro 32GB RAM Intel Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti


My DA Gallery: glen85.deviantart.com/gallery


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WandW ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2016 at 9:50 AM

Select the body actor of the clothing item, go to the Properties tab and check Include Morphs and Include Scales.

Also, V4 has magnets which need to be applied to the clothing; there are poses to do this in the Daz's Victoria 4 > Magnetize Clothing folder in the Poser library. The pose is applied to the clothing; the number corresponds to the order the V4 figures were added to the scene, if there is more than one V4...

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thehawkman ( ) posted Fri, 29 January 2016 at 4:55 PM

WandW posted at 10:50PM Fri, 29 January 2016 - #4251151

Select the body actor of the clothing item, go to the Properties tab and check Include Morphs and Include Scales.

Also, V4 has magnets which need to be applied to the clothing; there are poses to do this in the Daz's Victoria 4 > Magnetize Clothing folder in the Poser library. The pose is applied to the clothing; the number corresponds to the order the V4 figures were added to the scene, if there is more than one V4...

None of your suggestions do anything. Anything but a blank (as in no custom character injections), vanilla (no body fix like Perfect V4 or Lali) V4 in the default pose has problems fitting clothes in Poser.


WandW ( ) posted Sat, 30 January 2016 at 9:32 AM

Hmmm...There is something about the Shape of a Woman presets that doesn't play well with some conformers; the scales somehow get multiplied in some clothing, such as the DAZ Ultra Bodysuit. The shins and thighs are scaled down too much. However, Predatron's Violet Clothing (which is in essence a high-heeled bodysuit) works well, except for the ankles; The Leg Length Morphform has always been problematic in Poser, although it is much improved since Poser 7 days.

As far as morphed V4 goes, the morphs have to be in the clothing for it to fit (Lali has dozens of JCMS that need to be transferred). If they're not there, it can be added either by Copy Morphs From in Poser Pro, or with Wardrobe Wizard (if you have the V4 plugin) or D3D's Morphing Clothes....

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shante ( ) posted Wed, 17 February 2016 at 1:26 PM

thehawkman posted at 1:16PM Wed, 17 February 2016 - #4252040

WandW posted at 10:50PM Fri, 29 January 2016 - #4251151

Select the body actor of the clothing item, go to the Properties tab and check Include Morphs and Include Scales.

Also, V4 has magnets which need to be applied to the clothing; there are poses to do this in the Daz's Victoria 4 > Magnetize Clothing folder in the Poser library. The pose is applied to the clothing; the number corresponds to the order the V4 figures were added to the scene, if there is more than one V4...

None of your suggestions do anything. Anything but a blank (as in no custom character injections), vanilla (no body fix like Perfect V4 or Lali) V4 in the default pose has problems fitting clothes in Poser.

hmm just to throw something in here to consider why include Lali's Bits into a character you are going to dress anyway? WHY add hi res textures to the whole body when all you need is textures that show around the clothes? Why add a whole suite of breast morphs if all you will need the basic ones that come with the figure which would probably be easier to transfer to the clothing item? ? it seems it would be easier to remove something that causes a problem than to try an fix a problem it might cause leaving it in place. I love dial spinning and adding morphs to my figures but i do a lot of erotic fantasy art and nudes are the choice of my work. If I need to add clothing for a particular project i do not use too many custom morphs I would otherwise use if the character was nude. I have a deep foot fetish but I would not add foot change morphs if my figure was going to be wearing shoes. Just not a good thing to do. it adds to the file size and never really going to be useful and in fact actually cause other problems. I create a figure with all the fun morphs in place if she is going to be central to my illustration and then create another one with simple original DAZ ++ morphs for a dressed version of her if needed so the clothing can figure out better what do do when conformed and switch back figures as needed from their saved positions in my library. I am NOT the sharpest nail in the Poser User bag and because of that i have to keep things S.I.M.P.L.E for me to get through wherever possible. This has worked for this simpleton! Not a criticism just an idea.


Lyrra ( ) posted Wed, 17 February 2016 at 11:05 PM

just saw this thread.

The ShapeOf set for V4 is actually not a morph at all. It is a series of poses that set the height of the figure using the scale of the various bodyparts. I have a tutorial PDF in it that explains how to fit clothing with the pose settings included. However, in newer versions of poser you can turn on an option in the clothes so the scales follow v4.

Oh and I think there IS a script by DImension3d, to copy the figures scaling to the clothing.

However, you will find some odd issues - specifically anywhere there are ghost bones (most often on skirts) you need to manually copy the Hip scaling over to the clothing. Not all clothing is created equally, so some will cause weird scale mismatches if the child bones of Hip do not match Hip, and some clothing will be fine.

You have however reminded me that I wanted to do an update for the v4 shape of set, which should help. For my Dawn Shape of I used some new tools in poser to hook all the scale dials together to make a height dial. I've been meaning to go back and do that for the gen4's, which will make things much easier.

If you are still having trouble on your girl I can have a look if you like

Lyrra



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