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Subject: What options do we have left for CR2 editors, external libraries, etc?


Cage ( ) posted Wed, 26 June 2019 at 12:17 PM ยท edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 4:34 AM

(Also, why is the "Subject" line on this "Create Thread" feature five miles wide, but the subject itself can only be 75 characters long? Weird.)

Effective figure-building for Poser, AFAIK, still requires the use of an external cr2-editing program. The foremost of these in 2016, before everything in Poserdom went weird, was Dimension 3D's Poser File Editor. While PFE is still available here at Rosity, D3D died in 2016 and the software is apparently no longer maintained.

Poser users sometimes need an external library resource. A specific case where this need exists, one which interests me, is when porting Poser to Linux. The external library that apparently works for this purpose was made by D3D, and is apparently never again to be updated.

Do we have any other options for these resources? Are there other Poser add-ons that are essential for full use of Poser itself? Has Poser been developed to the point of no longer needing such things while I wasn't looking? What's the current situation?

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quietrob ( ) posted Wed, 26 June 2019 at 4:54 PM

I can't help with the Cr2 editors. That's way above my weight class. However, I use a browser as my external libraries. Is that what you mean?



Glitterati3D ( ) posted Wed, 26 June 2019 at 5:27 PM

As someone who does content creation almost daily, I rarely leave Poser for that purpose at this point. I use PFE rarely, and only for minor things like setting a morph to activate on load.

I no longer use Morphing Clothes because I have the Copy Morphs From inside Poser.

For morph creation I do still use colorcurvature's PML, but it not an unsupported product. Hannes responds to email support questions.

I use Creator's Toybox (from Netherworks) to deliver clean CR2s and unify my distribution files.

I have several small utilities created by Structure that I use with each product cycle like ReadME Generator, Image Searcher (to detail what texture files are in use) and Hidden Parameter Switch to hide superconforming morphs in the clothing. All of which are python scripts used inside Poser.

Injection files are now created inside Poser. JCMs are easily created.

In short, for content creation I don't have much reason to leave Poser at all once the model is complete and the grouping done.


movida ( ) posted Wed, 26 June 2019 at 9:13 PM

Glitterati3D posted at 9:11PM Wed, 26 June 2019 - #4354911

For morph creation I do still use colorcurvature's PML, but it not an unsupported product. Hannes responds to email support questions.

Is PML available anywhere? I've been looking all night.

Thank you


an0malaus ( ) posted Thu, 27 June 2019 at 12:48 AM ยท edited Thu, 27 June 2019 at 12:49 AM

movida posted at 3:45PM Thu, 27 June 2019 - #4354927

Glitterati3D posted at 9:11PM Wed, 26 June 2019 - #4354911

For morph creation I do still use colorcurvature's PML, but it not an unsupported product. Hannes responds to email support questions.

Is PML available anywhere? I've been looking all night.

Thank you

I've just seen an answer from Glitterati3D to the same question on the old SM Poser Forum, so I'll post it here, assuming that I'm not treading on any toes, and apologising if so.

ColorCurvature's Pose Morph Loader has done this for years. It's an excellent piece of python programming that I used extensively.

While it isn't available at a brokerage now, I have had several folks I'm helping contact him and he sold them the package privately.

There's an email address on his page here. http://cgscripts.colorcurvature.com/

Other posts and searches imply that PML was previously on Content Paradise.



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SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 27 June 2019 at 1:35 AM

For Cr2 editing, I use the venerable Cr2Editor. Still works, still free.

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Glitterati3D ( ) posted Thu, 27 June 2019 at 3:48 AM

an0malaus posted at 4:46AM Thu, 27 June 2019 - #4354947

movida posted at 3:45PM Thu, 27 June 2019 - #4354927

Glitterati3D posted at 9:11PM Wed, 26 June 2019 - #4354911

For morph creation I do still use colorcurvature's PML, but it not an unsupported product. Hannes responds to email support questions.

Is PML available anywhere? I've been looking all night.

Thank you

I've just seen an answer from Glitterati3D to the same question on the old SM Poser Forum, so I'll post it here, assuming that I'm not treading on any toes, and apologising if so.

ColorCurvature's Pose Morph Loader has done this for years. It's an excellent piece of python programming that I used extensively.

While it isn't available at a brokerage now, I have had several folks I'm helping contact him and he sold them the package privately.

There's an email address on his page here. http://cgscripts.colorcurvature.com/

Other posts and searches imply that PML was previously on Content Paradise.

Thanks, an0nmalaus, that is still the correct answer.


tonyvilters ( ) posted Thu, 27 June 2019 at 4:31 AM

I use the free Cr2editor on a daily basis. To clean out material left-overs, doing internal renaming, replacing path's to obj files, and for checking and testing cr2 and obj files. Funny what left-overs can be found from time to time. LOL.


movida ( ) posted Thu, 27 June 2019 at 5:12 AM

Thanks everyone, email sent :)

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Glitterati3D ( ) posted Thu, 27 June 2019 at 6:36 AM ยท edited Thu, 27 June 2019 at 6:36 AM

Cage, I thought of one script that would be invaluable.

With weight map figures, you need to model high heels to a flat foot and then use pose files to pose the foot after you have rigged the shoes. Now, yeah, we can do modeled to a posed foot PROP shoes, but the toes are a real problem there. And, in the case of La Femme, the metatarsel that also doesn't follow the pose.

So, a script that will allow me to import a grouped shoe modeled to a posed foot and rig as a CR2 would be a godsend for many of us.


tomponkin ( ) posted Sat, 20 March 2021 at 8:09 AM

Sorry I'm a little late to this party. After using Poser/Cin 4D for nigh on 2 decades I finally made up my mind to design my own props/clothes in Poser. I purchased a tutorial only to find the 'Poser File Editor' being used in the tutorial [the one mentioned above] is no longer available. Not a happy bunny. To add insult to injury I can't find a Cr2 editor since every time I type Cr2 into a search engine all I get is links to Canon Cameras, who use the same extension. I'd be very grateful for any help/links to a decent Poser File editor. Cheers in advance.


SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 20 March 2021 at 3:48 PM

I found a couple of links for Cr2Editor but they are both dead. :(

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Miss B ( ) posted Sun, 21 March 2021 at 1:05 PM

Kerya posted at 1:03PM Sun, 21 March 2021 - #4415290

https://web.archive.org/web/20191124193835/http://www.morphography.uk.vu/dl.php?file=Cr2Editor151.zip

Thank you Kerya. I knew the Morphograhy site was gone, but didn't think to look at the Web Archive, which is what I usually do, just not this time.

I'm sure I have this on my old laptop, but I still haven't gotten everything off it, and on to this one . . . yet.

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Kerya ( ) posted Mon, 22 March 2021 at 12:58 AM

I hunted down everything from Morphography for the Freebie Wiki ... there are only two things gone The KOZ Development Rig and the Plasmagram. The Plasmagram is available on another site.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 22 March 2021 at 7:31 AM

Thank you, Kerya.

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EnglishBob ( ) posted Mon, 22 March 2021 at 5:04 PM

If anyone does want the KOZ Dev rig I can make it available.

And thanks Kerya for tidying up my mess. :)


Miss B ( ) posted Mon, 22 March 2021 at 11:18 PM

Kerya posted at 11:14PM Mon, 22 March 2021 - #4415358

I hunted down everything from Morphography for the Freebie Wiki

Well, as it turns out, I was just on my external hard drive, and sure enough I found a folder named English Bob Utilities, and sure enough the CR2Editor was in there, so I "did" have it, I just hadn't looked in the right place for it earlier.

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tomponkin ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2021 at 9:55 AM

Thanks folks. I managed to download the Cr2 editor from Morphography and now I'll spend another 20 years learning how to use it. LOL! I don't understand why Dimension3D pulled the plug on the Poser File Editor since it appears to be an essential piece of kit. I was dreading having to use Notepad and spend months scrolling through endless lines of code. More puzzling is that Dimension3D still has many quality utilities on offer...so why abandon something so crucial. Oh well! Cheers folks.


Miss B ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2021 at 1:13 PM

tomponkin posted at 1:08PM Tue, 23 March 2021 - #4415434

I don't understand why Dimension3D pulled the plug on the Poser File Editor since it appears to be an essential piece of kit.

He didn't pull it. As far as I can remember it, and several others, were grouped together into one product . . . Poser Power Tools, possibly by his family after he passed away. Unfortunately, it's expensive, and I have several of the items in that group already, so certainly not something I would've invested in.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2021 at 6:38 PM

tomponkin posted at 6:34PM Tue, 23 March 2021 - #4415434

Thanks folks. I managed to download the Cr2 editor from Morphography and now I'll spend another 20 years learning how to use it. LOL! I don't understand why Dimension3D pulled the plug on the Poser File Editor since it appears to be an essential piece of kit. I was dreading having to use Notepad and spend months scrolling through endless lines of code. More puzzling is that Dimension3D still has many quality utilities on offer...so why abandon something so crucial. Oh well! Cheers folks.

Cr2Editor is very easy to use. If you can get your head around the basic file structure of a Cr2, it's a breeze. I use it for setting limits, hiding and/or unhiding dials, adding ERC, relabelling and renaming and all that stuff. With the option to have two separate files open at once, you can create a Cr2 for one model then paste the relevant parts into another one, which saves a lot of faffing about. The Search and Replace option is also something I use a lot, because it's a lot more efficient at finding stuff than I could ever hope to be.

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parkdalegardener ( ) posted Wed, 24 March 2021 at 4:48 AM

A blast from the past to help out with that. http://web.archive.org/web/20120622114348/http://www.kuroyumes-developmentzone.com/poserfilespec/introduction.html



yarp ( ) posted Wed, 24 March 2021 at 12:06 PM

@parkdalegardener, Thanks a lot for the link on the CR2 file specification. I was looking for some information on the format. Maybe I'll find some there.

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FVerbaas ( ) posted Sun, 28 March 2021 at 2:23 AM
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Anybody ever thought of making a Notepad++ plugin for Poser files?


parkdalegardener ( ) posted Sun, 28 March 2021 at 5:04 AM

Somebody did a couple years back. Can't remember who. I was, and am still; using Cr2Editor so I let it slip. Good idea though as that's all Cr2Editor really is at it's heart.



SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 28 March 2021 at 10:40 AM

parkdalegardener posted at 10:39AM Sun, 28 March 2021 - #4415722

Somebody did a couple years back. Can't remember who. I was, and am still; using Cr2Editor so I let it slip. Good idea though as that's all Cr2Editor really is at it's heart.

FWIW, you can open 'em in any text processor. I just dropped one into Libre Office. I like the layout of Cr2Editor, though. The twin windows are very useful to me.

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parkdalegardener ( ) posted Mon, 29 March 2021 at 5:34 AM

Me too. Especially adding lights to props and other such Frankensteining of files.



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SamTherapy posted at 6:22AM Tue, 30 March 2021 - #4415755

FWIW, you can open 'em in any text processor. ...

Yes but given the syntax definition Notepad++ also could interpret the text and do highlights and show branches open/collapsed. Saves a lot of scrolling.


bwldrd ( ) posted Tue, 30 March 2021 at 7:15 AM ยท edited Tue, 30 March 2021 at 7:17 AM

The Notepad++ file can be found here .. Netherwork's Poser Template For Notepad++. I believe you have to be a member of Hiverwires forums to access the download for it.

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parkdalegardener ( ) posted Tue, 30 March 2021 at 2:11 PM

Thanks bwldrd. I knew it was out there but the foggy old brain couldn't recall where.



FVerbaas ( ) posted Tue, 30 March 2021 at 2:39 PM
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Thanks! works quite well.


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