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mdbruffy ( ) posted Wed, 18 September 2019 at 9:27 PM ยท edited Fri, 13 December 2024 at 12:37 AM

I am currently using the early adapter version of Poser 11.2.222 but I've run into this with earlier Posers. Why is it, certain articles of clothing- usually older articles like outfits for V3 or 4- totally disappear when a transparency map is applied to them? They won't show up until they're rendered- which makes it fairly difficult to prepare a scene if you can't see what you're working with.



Rhia474 ( ) posted Wed, 18 September 2019 at 9:29 PM ยท edited Wed, 18 September 2019 at 9:34 PM

Because of some older material settings that cheated some effects. Use SceneFixer from SnarlyGribbly with the following settings to fix it:

scenefixer.JPG

ETA: and the link-Snarly's Scripts


mdbruffy ( ) posted Wed, 18 September 2019 at 10:09 PM ยท edited Wed, 18 September 2019 at 10:13 PM

Got it- download the screen shot, too. Thanks, Rhia!

One last question: Do I just drop it into poserScripts or just the Python folder itself?



Miss B ( ) posted Thu, 19 September 2019 at 12:17 AM

Ohhh, good to know. I've had that happen, and not necessarily old items, but with something I was beta testing earlier this year for a vendor over at HiveWire. I couldn't understand why they didn't show up when I loaded them onto the figure until I rendered them at least once. Thanks for the info Rhia.

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Thu, 19 September 2019 at 7:30 PM

I've installed it. But when I bring Poser up and add my figure, I can't find it in the Python scripts.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Thu, 19 September 2019 at 10:20 PM

Hello?



Giana ( ) posted Fri, 20 September 2019 at 7:54 AM

make sure it is in folders following this string:

python: poserscripts: scriptsmenu

post here if that doesn't work. i'll check back on this later. no post, and i'll assume all is okay.


mdbruffy ( ) posted Fri, 20 September 2019 at 7:47 PM

Giana posted at 7:42PM Fri, 20 September 2019 - #4362885

make sure it is in folders following this string:

python: poserscripts: scriptsmenu

post here if that doesn't work. i'll check back on this later. no post, and i'll assume all is okay.

I put it where you said to. Then I brought up Poser. I clicked on scripts,I clicked on Scenefixer and got this:

Scenefixer problem.jpg

I have a feeling that until my other problem with the python shell is fixed, this won't work either.

Same old, same old.jpg

The KinectCapture error has stopped coming up since I did what Bill said and deleted the folder. BUt the Python shell problem contniues. Please note this is NOT the verison of Poser you guys are now offering. This is the one made available to the early adapters 11.2.222



Rhia474 ( ) posted Fri, 20 September 2019 at 8:52 PM

Here is where mine is, runs with no issue. Also pls make sure you have at least a prop on the scene, or a figure. scenefixerlocation.JPG


mdbruffy ( ) posted Fri, 20 September 2019 at 9:18 PM

Rhia474 posted at 9:17PM Fri, 20 September 2019 - #4363006

Here is where mine is, runs with no issue. Also pls make sure you have at least a prop on the scene, or a figure.

Opened, Poser, opened the scene I've been working on, Brought up the menu, clicked on Scenefixer and got the same error message again, that I posted above.



Rhia474 ( ) posted Fri, 20 September 2019 at 9:29 PM

Hm., then I really am out of ideas. I was an early adopter, then I installed the final version. Everything runs fine with no issues, except EZSkin 2, but that's a version numbering issue. It may indeed be a python sell issue for you.


mdbruffy ( ) posted Fri, 20 September 2019 at 9:41 PM

Rhia474 posted at 9:39PM Fri, 20 September 2019 - #4363011

Hm., then I really am out of ideas. I was an early adopter, then I installed the final version. Everything runs fine with no issues, except EZSkin 2, but that's a version numbering issue. It may indeed be a python sell issue for you.

Well, I'm installing the new Poser tomorrow. Hopefully, that has the fix in it. I've had this problem dating back long before the early adopter version. So, I will find out tomorrow.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Sat, 21 September 2019 at 10:09 PM

Well, the new version has the exact same issues as the old one. So, I've sent in a ticket and now I'm waiting. Probably won't see an answer -or even an acknowledgement- till Monday.



Rhia474 ( ) posted Sat, 21 September 2019 at 10:30 PM

On another thread someone solved their Python issue by copying the Python folder onto another location, deleting it from the install and then repasting it. After restarting Poser fully, that fixed it and scripts were visible.


mdbruffy ( ) posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 6:58 AM

Rhia474 posted at 6:57AM Sun, 22 September 2019 - #4363252

On another thread someone solved their Python issue by copying the Python folder onto another location, deleting it from the install and then repasting it. After restarting Poser fully, that fixed it and scripts were visible.

I'll give it a try and see what happens.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 7:53 AM

Rhia474 posted at 7:53AM Sun, 22 September 2019 - #4363252

On another thread someone solved their Python issue by copying the Python folder onto another location, deleting it from the install and then repasting it. After restarting Poser fully, that fixed it and scripts were visible.

tried it and it didn't work. Got the same error message again.



ghostman ( ) posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 11:15 PM

mdbruffy posted at 6:13AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363284

Rhia474 posted at 7:53AM Sun, 22 September 2019 - #4363252

On another thread someone solved their Python issue by copying the Python folder onto another location, deleting it from the install and then repasting it. After restarting Poser fully, that fixed it and scripts were visible.

tried it and it didn't work. Got the same error message again.

Try this scrip from Snarlygribbly and see if it fix the problem. AVfix

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 7:48 AM ยท edited Mon, 23 September 2019 at 7:51 AM

ghostman posted at 7:46AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363471

mdbruffy posted at 6:13AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363284

Rhia474 posted at 7:53AM Sun, 22 September 2019 - #4363252

On another thread someone solved their Python issue by copying the Python folder onto another location, deleting it from the install and then repasting it. After restarting Poser fully, that fixed it and scripts were visible.

tried it and it didn't work. Got the same error message again.

Try this scrip from Snarlygribbly and see if it fix the problem. AVfix

I did both and neither one worked. The scripts are not the problem. There's something about Poser's programing that won't let it find the DLL files.

Same old.jpg

Until I can get the PythonShell to load, no script is going to work.



Snarlygribbly ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 1:35 PM

You are quite right to surmise that the scripts themselves are not the problem. Your wxPython library appears to be a little broken.

Please check the folder Poser SoftwarePoser 11RuntimePythonLibsite-packageswx-2.9.1-mswwx

There should be the Python script named stc.py, and a module called _stc.pyd

Can you confirm that they are both there? Additionally, the _stc.pyd file should be 635,392 bytes in size.

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Snarlygribbly ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 1:36 PM

Of course, the forum has deleted on the slashes in the path - I suspect you can work out where they are supposed to be :)

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 2:01 PM

Okay, I've checked and I do have the folder and the files BUT, my stc.pyd file is only 621KB not 635,392 bytes. I think it must be missing something.



Snarlygribbly ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 2:11 PM

mdbruffy posted at 8:07PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363595

Okay, I've checked and I do have the folder and the files BUT, my stc.pyd file is only 621KB not 635,392 bytes. I think it must be missing something.

No, you're good - 621KB is the same thing :)

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 2:40 PM

Snarlygribbly posted at 2:38PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363598

mdbruffy posted at 8:07PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363595

Okay, I've checked and I do have the folder and the files BUT, my stc.pyd file is only 621KB not 635,392 bytes. I think it must be missing something.

No, you're good - 621KB is the same thing :)

Then if everything checks, what's wrong? Could this have been fixed in a later version? When I downloaded the new files Thursday night, it was version 11.2.272. People on another thread have talked about downloading 11.2.276.



Snarlygribbly ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 3:23 PM

I don't know.We probably need someone cleverer than me to help here.

Please try this:

Create a text file with the commands shown here:

test.jpg

Save it as test.py somewhere on your computer and then run it from within Poser using the 'Run python Script' menu option. It should list all the places that Poser looks to find Python modules/scripts

(This script should run OK because it doesn't use the wx library that is causing your problem)

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 4:20 PM

Snarlygribbly posted at 4:19PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363616

I don't know.We probably need someone cleverer than me to help here.

Please try this:

Create a text file with the commands shown here:

test.jpg

Save it as test.py somewhere on your computer and then run it from within Poser using the 'Run python Script' menu option. It should list all the places that Poser looks to find Python modules/scripts

(This script should run OK because it doesn't use the wx library that is causing your problem)

I have never done anything like this before. Do I create this with Notepad?



Snarlygribbly ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 6:54 PM

Yes, Notepad is fine

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 7:13 PM

Okay. Working on it right now.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 7:21 PM

test result.jpg

What's next?



Miss B ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 9:11 PM

Snarlygribbly posted at 10:10PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363598

mdbruffy posted at 8:07PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363595

Okay, I've checked and I do have the folder and the files BUT, my stc.pyd file is only 621KB not 635,392 bytes. I think it must be missing something.

No, you're good - 621KB is the same thing :)

~whew~ I was hoping that was the case.

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 9:51 PM

Miss B posted at 9:50PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363728

Snarlygribbly posted at 10:10PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363598

mdbruffy posted at 8:07PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363595

Okay, I've checked and I do have the folder and the files BUT, my stc.pyd file is only 621KB not 635,392 bytes. I think it must be missing something.

No, you're good - 621KB is the same thing :)

~whew~ I was hoping that was the case.

This Python thing has been bugging me long before Bondware bought the program.



Snarlygribbly ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 3:03 AM

mdbruffy posted at 9:01AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363711

What's next?

I honestly don't know :( You've confirmed that the files are in the correct place, and you paths all seem to be correct. It all looks good to me, but obviously isn't because it's not working. Perhaps someone else can come in and help now?

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 8:25 AM

Snarlygribbly posted at 8:25AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363777

mdbruffy posted at 9:01AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363711

What's next?

I honestly don't know :( You've confirmed that the files are in the correct place, and you paths all seem to be correct. It all looks good to me, but obviously isn't because it's not working. Perhaps someone else can come in and help now?

Well, thanks for trying. I'm still waiting for an acknowledgement from tech support.



wimvdb ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 9:33 AM

Just a wild guess - there are 3 PythonAddon folders in the listing you made.

Could you rename the Addons folder in PublicDocumentsPoser 11 ContentRuntimePythonAddons and PublicDocumentsPoser 11 ContentDownloadsRuntimePythonAddons to AddonsOld.?

Those folders should not be there and may contain older or incomplete versions.

Addons must be installed in Program FilesPoser SoftwarePoser 11RuntimePythinAddons


mdbruffy ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 11:55 AM ยท edited Tue, 24 September 2019 at 11:58 AM

wimvdb posted at 11:53AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363825

Just a wild guess - there are 3 PythonAddon folders in the listing you made.

Could you rename the Addons folder in PublicDocumentsPoser 11 ContentRuntimePythonAddons and PublicDocumentsPoser 11 ContentDownloadsRuntimePythonAddons to AddonsOld.?

Those folders should not be there and may contain older or incomplete versions.

Addons must be installed in Program FilesPoser SoftwarePoser 11RuntimePythinAddons

I think Poser's gone senile. It may be seeing those folders, but the computer itself is not. What if I just delete that entire Poser 11 content folder? All of those folders are empty anyway.



Snarlygribbly ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 12:33 PM

wimvdb posted at 6:30PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363825

Those folders should not be there and may contain older or incomplete versions. Addons must be installed in Program FilesPoser SoftwarePoser 11RuntimePythinAddons

Addons can be in any runtime. I do so all the time.

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wimvdb ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 1:25 PM

Snarlygribbly posted at 8:22PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363858

wimvdb posted at 6:30PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363825

Those folders should not be there and may contain older or incomplete versions. Addons must be installed in Program FilesPoser SoftwarePoser 11RuntimePythinAddons

Addons can be in any runtime. I do so all the time.

As long as you do not have different versions or incompete versions.

Poser, reality, octane, dson store it in program files. Since we do not know what the problem is, it is worth a try.


quietrob ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 1:59 PM

I've had ZERO problem with Python scripts. I am at 11.2.272. Please check your version. My Snarly pythons are located in C:Program FilesSmith MicroPoser 11RuntimePythonposerScriptsScriptsMenuSnarly Gribbly



mdbruffy ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 2:18 PM

I deleted that content folder thinking that would force the program to look in the program folder- where all the files are. Searched again and found the Smith Micro DLM folder- with all of their Poser 11 install files in it and deleted that. No such luck. "An error occured importing addon PyhtonShell: Error: DLL Load failed. The specified module could not be found." This has gotten old.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 2:20 PM

quietrob posted at 2:19PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363876

I've had ZERO problem with Python scripts. I am at 11.2.272. Please check your version. My Snarly pythons are located in C:Program FilesSmith MicroPoser 11RuntimePythonposerScriptsScriptsMenuSnarly Gribbly

The scripts are not the problem- they're where they're supposed to be. The Python SHELL won't load. Until it does, no script is going to work.



SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 2:21 PM

A wild stab in the dark... Corrupted dll? No, I wouldn't know what to do about it but that may be the culprit.

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 2:23 PM

SamTherapy posted at 2:22PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363899

A wild stab in the dark... Corrupted dll? No, I wouldn't know what to do about it but that may be the culprit.

If I knew which one it was, I'd do an internet search and see if I could download a new copy.



quietrob ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 6:33 PM

mdbruffy posted at 4:31PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363897

quietrob posted at 2:19PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363876

I've had ZERO problem with Python scripts. I am at 11.2.272. Please check your version. My Snarly pythons are located in C:Program FilesSmith MicroPoser 11RuntimePythonposerScriptsScriptsMenuSnarly Gribbly

The scripts are not the problem- they're where they're supposed to be. The Python SHELL won't load. Until it does, no script is going to work.

I didn't say the scripts were your problem. I did ask about your current version. You never answered.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 6:42 PM

quietrob posted at 6:42PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363962

mdbruffy posted at 4:31PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363897

quietrob posted at 2:19PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363876

I've had ZERO problem with Python scripts. I am at 11.2.272. Please check your version. My Snarly pythons are located in C:Program FilesSmith MicroPoser 11RuntimePythonposerScriptsScriptsMenuSnarly Gribbly

The scripts are not the problem- they're where they're supposed to be. The Python SHELL won't load. Until it does, no script is going to work.

I didn't say the scripts were your problem. I did ask about your current version. You never answered.

Sorry, misunderstood. 11.2.272



mdbruffy ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 12:08 PM

Okay. I sent in the ticket 4 days ago. There's been no acknowledgement and no response.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 3:32 PM

You folks ready for this? I just downloaded and installed 11.2.286. Twice. Backing up my preference files and removing those files and guess what?

POser 11.2.286 cluster- .jpg

That's right. Same old, same old. And Still no word from Tech Support.



caisson ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 3:56 PM

My suggestion - assuming you're on Windows - would be to use Everything (here), let it index, then search for 'addon', 'Kinect' and/or PythonShell. See what it can find. I had this issue some time ago, way before 11.2, and IIRC I had a random addon folder from a previous install which was either incomplete or corrupt as deleting it solved the problem. Apologies if you've tried this already.

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mdbruffy ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 4:05 PM ยท edited Thu, 26 September 2019 at 4:05 PM

caisson posted at 4:05PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364234

My suggestion - assuming you're on Windows - would be to use Everything (here), let it index, then search for 'addon', 'Kinect' and/or PythonShell. See what it can find. I had this issue some time ago, way before 11.2, and IIRC I had a random addon folder from a previous install which was either incomplete or corrupt as deleting it solved the problem. Apologies if you've tried this already.

Thank you, caisson, I'm to the point where I'll try anything once. I've downloaded it and I will try it.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 4:11 PM

caisson posted at 4:10PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364234

My suggestion - assuming you're on Windows - would be to use Everything (here), let it index, then search for 'addon', 'Kinect' and/or PythonShell. See what it can find. I had this issue some time ago, way before 11.2, and IIRC I had a random addon folder from a previous install which was either incomplete or corrupt as deleting it solved the problem. Apologies if you've tried this already.

I have it installed, but it's showing me an empty screen. How do I get it started? What do I type into the search window?



mdbruffy ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:25 PM

mdbruffy posted at 5:25PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364241

caisson posted at 4:10PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364234

My suggestion - assuming you're on Windows - would be to use Everything (here), let it index, then search for 'addon', 'Kinect' and/or PythonShell. See what it can find. I had this issue some time ago, way before 11.2, and IIRC I had a random addon folder from a previous install which was either incomplete or corrupt as deleting it solved the problem. Apologies if you've tried this already.

I have it installed, but it's showing me an empty screen. How do I get it started? What do I type into the search window?

Got it running. I'm looking through the files now.



mdbruffy ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 6:05 PM

caisson posted at 6:04PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364234

My suggestion - assuming you're on Windows - would be to use Everything (here), let it index, then search for 'addon', 'Kinect' and/or PythonShell. See what it can find. I had this issue some time ago, way before 11.2, and IIRC I had a random addon folder from a previous install which was either incomplete or corrupt as deleting it solved the problem. Apologies if you've tried this already.

Is there any way of narrowing this down? It's brought up every file on the system. At this rate it'll take days to go through them all.



caisson ( ) posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 6:17 PM

Just under File at the top of the screen is a blank bar - type in there, it'll give you results pretty quick. It goes by name so just use whatever keywords you need. The list is then grouped by type. If you want to go to the location of something in the list, right-click on it and choose Open Path from the drop-down menu.

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