Okay, so what's the deal with the order of the render presets in Poser 11.3 (Mac)? ie. how can I get them to display in a sensible order (ideally low to ultra).

Thx if anyone has any ideas; I have found the individual preset files but there doesn't seem to be an index order in them or something.

You could just amend the names to get them in an order you like, as in this example I just did. This is on PC, would this work on Mac?

Thanks, but if only...

maybe you're using a PC and this is a Mac bug...

I noticed straight away that they were not ordered so assumed (correctly) that the renaming wouldn't work.

grrrr

I tried using the existing presets to create new user presets, but the user-created presets are not ordered in any sensible manner either - seemingly displayed randomly. sigh.

I now suspect this is an Apple APFS or OSX SSD issue as I've been sorting out my EZDome library and the files do not order alphanumerically (or delete correctly) if accessed from an SSD but are ordered fine (and delete correctly) if accessed from an ordinary HDD. Posting this in case it helps anyone else. btw am running Mojave 10.14.6

There was an issue I recall with Macs that stopped the libraries being sorted alphabetically.

Perhaps this thread may help, although it's not specifically for the presets.

non alphabetised items

Or this one at the old Smith Micro Poser forum. macos-mojave-compatibility

Thx, will take a look.

Try writing the index numbers with two digits: "01", "02" ... "14", instead of "1", "2" ... "14"

Good idea Karina. Unfortunately, that didn't work either.

I tried modifying LIB_ITEMS_SERVER_SORT as per those articles and that made no difference either. I suspect the render presets don't use this flag. We likely need a RENDER_PRESETS_SERVER_SORT

I have Poser (and OSX) on an SSD but keep my runtime content on an external HDD.

The above did remind me that the library/runtimes also do not order alphabetically for me either - which also happened to be annoying me, but I noticed that I can edit the XML for the runtimes myself ( LibraryPrefs.xml ) - and have done which is a blessing.

Okay, after typing the above I realised I had a way forward. I backed up and then copied my render presets folder to my external drive. I then created an alias/shortcut to it and put that back where the original render presets folder was. Now Poser looks at the alias goes to the external non-SSD drive for the presets and gets them in alpha-magically-betical order. Hurrah! (yes, I did have to put a number in front of them to get them numerically ordered).

Blimey, what a palaver! Glad you at least found a way to get it sorted out :)

Thx, the things we have to do. Good job I'm not untechie