I wanna make a Tiger or Panther Body using the Poser 11 Hair Room. My question is, for the black and yellow stripes, do i have to do each color of the hair separatly? or can i just put a color map on the whole "hair-body"?

If your texture map is set for the Tiger then that should color the hairs.

Yup, you don't have to color each hair. Tiny's cat uses the original DAZ texture maps to make furry cats:

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/fluffy-cat/94626

The stripes should show better with shorter fur.

apply the texture maps for the tiger to the fur props. Here is an example.

Tiny's product is not available any more, just a note.

Rhia474 posted at 10:19AM Wed, 17 June 2020 - #4392206

Tiny's product is not available any more, just a note.

I just meant it as an example, but if anyone wants it, he's selling it at Hivewire now.

For newbies and those of us who haven't wrapped our minds around this ... Ghostship2, could you do a walk-through (step by step) on the process ... a lot of people would like to learn this!!

@boni I just followed this Youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZD-HAyZTY

Ohhhh, now I'm actually encouraged to play in the Hair Room. What a nice, easy, fast video tutorial. Thanks for the link sir, much appreciated.

@ghostship2 the video just helps for hair room and for a random texturing. the tex in that video are just colored spots. but the tiger texture is specific.

i tried this: here i use the alien for m4 texture. as you see there are those tiger stripes

i did all the same hair with length and thickness all over the body. i used the limb texture on fur on the limbs and body texture on fur on the body. and as you see i don´t see the tiger stripes anymore. (best part are the legs)

so what´s wrong here?

the shader used in the tute is probably not compatible with Poser 11 or Superfly. I use a hair shader that I made for figure hair. The difference here is no transparency and no bump maps are needed.

i have no idea what this all means (is there a tut for those in general?) it´s not part of the manual. i did this like you and i got black texture as result :(

show me your mat for the fur

This is as simple as it gets. Use any texture on the root and the tip of your hair. Put the same texture on the underlying surface. Skin in the case of fur.

I'm keeping an eye on this ... Cuz you know if this works out we can have a lot of furry beasties show up in the marketplace!!

Boni; didn't I hook you up to a pile of tutorials I did for this stuff a few years back? They were over at PFDLives. By now they have probably been removed and I no longer maintain an account there. I seem to recall linking you to a tutorial on doing this to Krystal as well as a tiger skin throw blanket laying on an armchair.

This was in 2016 https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2906662

I have posts on dynamic hair and fur back in 2013 here in a thread on Angora wool and more before that. Patterned fur is not a new thing and is totally doable with modest hardware as the hair room is single threaded if I recall correctly.

There's still a list of your tutorials at PFDLives, though I'm not sure any of these deal with fur.

I'm surprised any survived. sanbie must have tried to save some. None of those are hair sadly. Feel free to distribute if anyone wants them. Most would be outdated unless you are looking for Firefly specific stuff.

The image of the shader set up I posted above is the simplest way to do it. Just think that dynamic hair exactly the same as the hair on any animal, people included; when it comes to patterning. The pattern on the skin under the hair is the pattern of the hair itself. Shave a tiger and it's skin has stripes. Hair is mapped along the P node. Base to tip. Thus if you plug the skin map into the base and tip of Poser's hair shader the hair acquires the pattern of the skin. Striped tiger skin makes striped tiger fur.

@Robert_Ripley bottom line is that the default shaders for hair render black in Superfly. They are borked. Parkdalegardener has a shader there that'll probably work but isn't best practice with using diffuse AND alt diffuse + specular (highlights) set to black. try this to start but note that it doesn't look or act like hair.

parkdalegardener posted at 9:40PM Thu, 18 June 2020 - #4392373

I'm surprised any survived. sanbie must have tried to save some.

That's exactly what Sanbie named the link to that page, so yes she must've been trying to save some of them.

For the alien, it looks like the hair needs to be denser and possibly longer, just a smidge, in addition to a proper shader. Hair density is often too low in many old tutorials because the hardware couldn't handle it. I jack mine up to between 300 and 500 hundred and my 6 year old machine can handle it. Superfly does better with rendering dynamic hair than firefly does as far as speed. It also does better than with some transmapped hair where the render engine slows down with multiple layers of transparencies. Something else to keep in mind, the hair follows the same UV map as the object it's grown on, so if you want stripes, you'll want them to follow your figure's texture. Here's a simple shader.

I never noticed the hairbsdf. I seldom render images these days and never bothered to look for a newer hair node than the old one used above. I'll have to make something with hair and try it out.

I did what parkdalegardener did. use the same texture for fur and for skin below and here is the result

i changed the texture map itself a bit so you see the stripes better.

btw i only use firefly (i´m not used to superfly and settings) not even for all material stuff you mentioned (Cycles surface,...)

Glad I could help.

parkdalegardener posted at 3:42AM Sun, 21 June 2020 - #4392519

Glad I could help.

thanks so much everyone :D