So, just an update: My state of NC has just passed a statewide mandate to wear masks as well as at least 21 other states and Washington, DC. Will it continue? And more importantly to this thread, will it become fashionable?

Welcome to our world in the New York Tristate area. Fashionable, no. Necessary, yes. Even if we reach community immunity, which requires that over 90% of the global population be exposed to the virus and can no longer become infected or infectious, we would need to practice precautions until a proven vaccine can be distributed. We might be looking at 1 to 2 years, given if we can actually create a vaccine. Keep in mind, HIV has no vaccine as of yet. Then again, COVID-19 might just disappear on its own in about 3 years if most of the population contracts it and develop long-lasting immunity.

Vaccines don't actually make you immune to a virus. Basically, the way most vaccines work, or at least the way Pastuer originally did it was to give a person the weakened virus to help your body build up antibodies to the virus. Then your body just fights off the disease naturally.

Correct. An attenuated virus, or partially inactivated virus, supplies the basic antigen, enough to elicit a primary immune response. When you are exposed to the actual, active virus, your body will immediately respond going into hyperdrive, manufacturing more antibodies within a short amount of time. You might get some symptoms, but your downtime is shorter and recovery quicker.

hborre posted at 6:23AM Thu, 02 July 2020 - #4393680

Correct. An attenuated virus, or partially inactivated virus, supplies the basic antigen, enough to elicit a primary immune response. When you are exposed to the actual, active virus, your body will immediately respond going into hyperdrive, manufacturing more antibodies within a short amount of time. You might get some symptoms, but your downtime is shorter and recovery quicker.

Which makes me wonder why cold viruses are so different. almost everyone has had a cold, so we definitely have the antibodies to fight it off. Of course, colds are either bad, terrible or sometimes you just have the sniffles a runny nose or a cough.

Did I call it with the Face Mask fashion or not?

30 Fashion Forward Face Masks to Match your Personal Style

Also, just in time to not play football...

Still waiting to see about the gloves.

I just use cut up old death metal tshirts, fabric is more comfortable than bandanna fabric. I can't wear those surgical mask types, they're awful.

I'm curious to see formal attire masks...

My preferred mask style...mechanical power arm optional -

wolf359 posted at 11:25AM Sat, 11 July 2020 - #4394319

My preferred mask style...mechanical power arm optional -

Meh. If I had my druthers...

I told someone a bit of a joke this morning. I had to go to the supermarket, and outside I put on my face mask and I always wear a pair of gloves because I never know what I'm going to be touching or come into contact with. Inside, the store I ran into someone in the dairy section, and I told him that six months ago, if you saw someone standing outside the store putting on a pair of gloves and a face mask, you would call the police immediately. Nowadays, if you see someone standing outside a store and about to go in and he's NOT wearing a face masks and gloves, then you still call the police immediately. Good thing he wasn't drinking anything. That could have been messy.

YOU might call the police immediately LOL ;)

EldritchCellar posted at 2:37PM Sat, 11 July 2020 - #4394330

YOU might call the police immediately LOL ;)

Yeah, I would, and I'm a black man too.

Lol. Oh shit ??

Seconds later he says

AND a Woman LOL

If I speak while wearing a maxk my glasses steam up.

A_Sunbeam posted at 2:54PM Sat, 11 July 2020 - #4394344

If I speak while wearing a maxk my glasses steam up.

FogTech Dx, or Optix 55 fog gone or similar, or just a tighter seal on your mask

A_Sunbeam posted at 3:19PM Sat, 11 July 2020 - #4394344

If I speak while wearing a maxk my glasses steam up.

My dad has the same problem. Rub a tiny bit of shaving cream on each side of the lens and then wash it off.

This year just get weirder and weirder

EldritchCellar posted at 6:03PM Sat, 11 July 2020 - #4394341

Lol. Oh shit ??

I want to say something, as long as we've touched on it, but I don't want to derail this thread, so I won't say anything more about it... I hope. But I'm not a believer in systemic police racism. When I was a kid back in the 60's and maybe even the 70's, I'd have said yes. You also have to realise that I come from NC. A state that was deep in KKK territory when I was growing up. There was a KKK sign not more than 50 miles from where I lived that didn't come down until the early 80's. So I KNOW systemic racism when I see it. That's not the police today. Yes, they tend to be a hammer and everything looks like a nail. But frankly, we're treating the police today as bad as they treated soldiers returning from Vietnam in the 60's. They called them "baby killers" then, and that wasn't true then either. I had two brothers in the military back then, and actually just missed having to go myself.

I was beaten up plenty by cops when I was younger. Dragged down halls in cuffs. Pepper sprayed. Pushed down stone steps by a philly cop at the now dead spectrum music venue. But that was over 20 years ago, and I was a violent drunk then. I haven't had a single encounter with police in a long time, but I've met plenty that were just flat out not nice people. That's people for you.

The only reason I commented is because I do a lot of maintenance work in supermarkets; construction, roof repair, floor and ceiling tile, etc. None of the employees at the supermarkets, in the back at receiving and stuff, wear masks. So the irony of you suggesting you'd notify the police about someone not wearing a mask in front of a supermarket seemed hysterically weird. I just did a whole concrete sidewalk job in front of a supermarket, and not a damn one of us were wearing masks Lol.

So my comment actually had nothing to do with race.

The point being knowing perspective I guess, from either party. Anyway. I try to stay away from police, not summon them. So far so good.

EldritchCellar posted at 7:02PM Sat, 11 July 2020 - #4394354

I was beaten up plenty by cops when I was younger. Dragged down halls in cuffs. Pepper sprayed. Pushed down stone steps by a philly cop at the now dead spectrum music venue. But that was over 20 years ago, and I was a violent drunk then. I haven't had a single encounter with police in a long time, but I've met plenty that were just flat out not nice people. That's people for you.

The only reason I commented is because I do a lot of maintenance work in supermarkets; construction, roof repair, floor and ceiling tile, etc. None of the employees at the supermarkets, in the back at receiving and stuff, wear masks. So the irony of you suggesting you'd notify the police about someone not wearing a mask in front of a supermarket seemed hysterically weird. I just did a whole concrete sidewalk job in front of a supermarket, and not a damn one of us were wearing masks Lol.

So my comment actually had nothing to do with race.

Fair enough, although I haven't really had any BAD run ins with cops. But two people I know, both, ironically, worked for the local tv news station, did. One was shot and killed, basically, wrong place, wrong time, and one was shot by a cop, who didn't identify himself. The cop was sued and the family won in both cases. Both were black. Wasn't the first time the station was involved with the police though. One reporter, he was white, was arrested for trying to pick up prostitutes while doing a story. We teased him about it for days.

I also work in the back of the house, but I work in a cooler most of the time by myself. So it actually makes little to no sense for me to wear a mask. I do still wear the gloves though. 1) they keep my hands somewhat warm, and 2) I don't want anyone blaming me if they get sick for drinking something I touched while stocking shelves.

Little do our co-workers know that we grown men spend so much time playing with virtual dolls Lol. I just tell my construction co-workers that "I like 3d modeling". There's blank stares. Then I say "it's kinda like CAD". They're like "ohhh... yeah?" and change the subject

Edit: excuse me, "action figures"

EldritchCellar posted at 8:37PM Sat, 11 July 2020 - #4394357

Edit: excuse me, "action figures" .......................................................................................................................................................

Just thought I'd add something. This morning I was awakened by three or four loud pops outside my house. I was wondering who would be setting off fire crackers this early in the morning? I tried to go back to bed. A little while later, I looked outside my window and noticed a whole lot of flashing Blue lights outside. There were about seven police cars up and down my street. They never bothered me or knocked on my door. I like to go to the laundromat early in the morning to do my laundry because there's practically no one there, and I don't have to wear a mask. I stepped outside, went to my car and drove down the street. The police still didn't bother me. Found out a little while ago that they were investigating a shooting in my neighborhood. One of the bullets went through the wall of the house of a friend of mine. Another bullet missed another neighbor as she lay in her bed asleep. Apparently there were shell casings up and down the street. I saw the cones they used to mark each one. Do I want to defund the police? No.

That's a little scary Earl. I hate it when I hear fire engines or ambulances stop nearby, as I never know if they're headed for this building. The ambulances don't bother me as much, as there's a nursing home on the next corner, though they've been celebrating since the pandemic started, because all of their staff and patients have been healthy. We can only hope it continues that way.