I wish, I wish I might go back in time this night...was purchasing poser 12 a mistake???? Well it screwed up my poser 11 installation, major well used portions of poser 11 no longer work after installing poser 12...If I could turn back time I would have stayed well away from 12.. I swear poser 12 literally ate my poser 11 installation. dyson gone...easy skin gone other pythons...unusable...Ah folks when you upgrade it is supposed to be to something better...For my purposes poser 12 means going back at least years ten years in learning to use poser....Taking away the best part of poser 11 so you could milk the cash cow in 12 was a terrible decision on your part...You killed it...I installed poser 12 and had to watch as it killed my poser 11 slowly and painfully...Poser 12 acts like a virus..it doesn't shut down, some part of it stays in the back ground and when you get frustrated and go back to 11...12 eats it alive!!!!! I know the likelihood of this staying posted isn't very good and I can't say as I would blame you. I wish poser 12 would go away and give me my poser 11 back!!!!!!!

If you saved your install of Poser 11, you can reinstall it.
Please use a different directory than you have Poser 12 in.
Poser 12 uses Python 3 NONE of the Poser 11 scripts will work in Poser 12 because they are Python 2.

P12 will install into a different directory by default. Overwriting a previous installation will completely disable all functionality as per mentioned in the previous post.

donnena posted at 10:47PM Fri, 19 March 2021 - #4415210

Poser 12 uses Python 3 NONE of the Poser 11 scripts will work in Poser 12 because they are Python 2.

This is not quite correct.Several Python 2 scripts work fine in Poser 12 (i.e. Python 3).

The pseudo compiled scripts (the ones with the extension ".pyc" instead of ".py") actually do not work. A lot of scripts, which are available as source and which can be loaded into a text editor, work - at the latest after small changes - again as usual.

I really ask myself what this nonsense with the pseudo compiled scripts is about. There is - officially - a Python decompiler for ages. Completely legal. The only thing that compiled scripts achieve in the end is what we have right now: A huge disaster and heaps of angry users.

That's interesting, I wasn't aware that apparently-protected old compiled pyc python scripts could be decompiled. A few minutes of research suggests the utility names to look for are: Uncompyle, Easy Python Decompiler, and Decompyle++.

Whenever installing any software you should make sure you have a backup of your system - Time Machine on Mac for example makes this super easy. And installing a new version over an old version is always asking for trouble. Even for increment releases you should not overwrite - I have several Poser 11 versions on my machine.

Poser decompiling is something I hadn’t thought was possible - it never occured to me, I must investigate.

ader posted at 10:41AM Sat, 20 March 2021 - #4415254

Poser decompiling is something I hadn’t thought was possible - it never occured to me, I must investigate.

Decompiling Poser? Wouldn't work without a big portion of hacker knowledge.

Poser Python Scripts: Ok. That's really easy. And legal for your own private use.

HartyBart posted at 10:48AM Sat, 20 March 2021 - #4415253

I wasn't aware that apparently-protected old compiled pyc python scripts could be decompiled.

:)

Did you see the timestamp of version one? Decompilers are nearly as old as Python can compile :)

Lol yeah, meant Python.

Just to have it said:

Python's compiler was never intended to "protect" software. It is a relatively simple bytecode compiler. Roughly speaking, the compilation process translates the written text into "bytecode" which can then be executed faster by the interpreter. The "compiled" script does not have to be parsed and translated first. The bytecode allows the whole thing to be processed using a simple jump table (yes, that's a simplyfied description).

This means that the bytecodes can be translated back to text without any problems. This is also described somewhere in the Python documentation. Including the hint that compiling does not mean "protection" :)

donnena posted at 7:58PM Wed, 24 March 2021 - #4415210

If you saved your install of Poser 11, you can reinstall it.
Please use a different directory than you have Poser 12 in.
Poser 12 uses Python 3 NONE of the Poser 11 scripts will work in Poser 12 because they are Python 2.

Yes, most of the problems I've had with 12 I created myself, if you try to use one of your poser 10/poser 11 pythons, Poser 12 will eat it alive....Poser 12 has some growing up to do and so do the people trying to use it.....lol