"For those of you out there who have characters that are looking to become 'Professionals', or perhaps just looking for a little pay-back." I was just wondering if this set of props that I put together would be something that any of you fine Poser using folks would be interested in. I call the set, 'Snipers Essentials'. You can find an earlier version of the Scope in the Free Stuff area. Any and all critizisms are welcomed. So long as you are honest. Thank you for your time, -proteus-

Here is a shot from a different angle.

Wonderfully modeled....no guns for me though. Sharen

Beautiful work :)

whats the poly count going to be? is it going to come with texmaps? are the bullets seperate objects? what caliber are these weapons? how come the bullets seem so short?(isnt this a rifle?) where are the sights for the ones without scopes? the hand stock seems to be at a awkward angle in releation to the butt stocks,is going to fixed in the release version? and finally, do i ask too many questions?........:->

Nice model, what program did you use to model it? smerc

I would much prefer a M-16 A1 assault rifle for use with the various GI/Combat paks...would seem more timely I think. -WTB

Victem = victim ;). I have no use for guns, but that means nothing for everyone else ;). Laurie

I'm not particularly partial to guns myself but I can see the fine craftsmanship in these! A job well done...TrueSpace? :) Irene

Whoa.......let me reply in order of appearance. SAMS3D: I thank you kindly for your thoughts on my model. I truly love to get feedback, especially of this sort. Helen: I am so glad to hear that you like the work that I have done with this. When I finish with my current project, of which you so graciously helped me to get back on track, I will send you a copy for you to use as you see fit. Thanks again. wgreenlee1: 1) 92845 vertices 165872 faces..............do the math. hehehe 2) No, texture maps are not needed. However, you are more then welcomed to make your own. (pssst..send me a copy) 3) As for the caliber. This is a hand-made, custom-built, precision instrument. Certain aspects of its design are to be kept secret, for security purposes. Only the maker and those who seek to become proficient with such a tool are privy to this information. 4)Ooops...my bad. In the early stages of conception, it was not planned to be a multi-piece set. The 'Full Clip' was an after thought, as were the other assorted pieces. The idea that the ammo rounds in the full clip were too short, totally got by me. As a matter of fact, since you have brought this to my attention, every time I look at the pictures now, all I see are the too-short rounds gleaming at me from the top of that darned clip. This is something that I will rectify in version two. ...............thanks for the look out. 5) Do you see that scope sitting there all by itself on the left side of the picture? That bad little boy can be used to equip the rifles without scopes............at least that's the idea I had in mind. 6) Should you look closely at the rifles without scopes AND silencers, you will see that there are indeed sights at the end of the barrel. And before you ask how to shoot the rifle that has NO scope but does have a silencer, the answer is this: Not all manifestations of this rifle are meant to be used for shooting. These are for scenes that have a Sniper/Assassin involved in them. Now we all know that Assassins do not just carry their guns around for all to see. So these guns are in various states of assembly/disassembly for use as the situation calls for. There will be at a later time, a version that can be TOTALLY broken down and carried in a fitted aluminum case. But not this version. ;o) 7) Mike hasn't complained about the angle relation between the stock and grip yet. If he has any reservations about the design, he's keeping them to himself. Therefore, I see nothing to be fixed here. The grip and stock are two individual pieces. I could easily change the angle if I thought there was a need. 8) No not at all. I enjoy responding to questions so very much. Especially when all I really wanted were comments. LOL smerc: Why thank youuuuuu. I used 3D Studio Max to model it. I'm happy with it, and I'm glad you like it as well. WTB: Yes, a military rifle would be timely. The state of the world today is resounding in military conflict. I have many thoughts on this matter. But I will reserve those thoughts for a more relevant forum. This rifle however, is a tool for an Assassin. Laurie: Ooops..my bad. I surely need to start running that spell checking software that resides on my HDD someplace. Irene: Yes I understand that not everyone is into the things that I am, and I respect that. And for you to stop and take the time to make such a nice comment, all I can say is 'Thank you for the sincerity I see in your words' B.T.W. I used Studio Max

Oops...ME bad ;). I forgot to mention that I thought it was fine modeling :). I'm soooooo jealous of you folks that can do it...sigh. Laurie

hehehe

Go ahead proteus, rub it in! ;o) :oP Hehe :oD Laurie

NO NO NO. I didn't mean it that way. I was chuckling over your choice of terminology. " Ooops Me Bad ;) " and the fact that you say you forgot to say what you wanted to say in the first place. I thought it was funny because I have done the same darn thing myself on MANY occasions. ;o)

Quite a few modern rifles are supplied by the manufacturer completely sans iron sights... they're intended to be used exclusively with a scope. Also applies to a lot of handguns like the Contender and Remington XP-100. ;] Proteus... lengthen the reciever back of the hand grip about 2 - 3 inches, an deepen the bottom half of the reciever just a bit, maybe 3/8 of an inch or so, and you'll get rid of the "grip looks at an awkward angle" think that was mentioned. It's the closeness of the top of the grip to the stock that's making it look awkwards... makes it look as though recoil would compress the thumb and the web of the hand to me. Making those changes would make the design a bit less "cramped looking". Nice job overall. Pretty decent modeling. A hazard of doing firearms models is that you occassionally get real world shooters and firearms buffs like me looking them over with a critical eye. ;]

It's that critical eye that makes some of us strive towards perfection. I think the next version will actually look more like a diferent model altogether. I have had some folks give me pointers and ideas that on the most part are quite good and correct. Yours included Ironbear. Though I will say this. For my first 'made-from-scratch' attempt at modeling, I think I did pretty well. And judging from the comments I have recieved, both here in this thread as well as elsewhere, most other folks think so too. I'm a happy camper. ;o)

Don't get me wrong, I think you do pretty damn well also. You should be a happy camper. ;] Quick tip: for modeling.... NOTHING beats photos and refernece books. Half-Price Books and other discount book stores are your friends. ;] You can hit the firearms section at Half-Price, spend a few hours browsing the back issues of Guns and Ammo, Guns Magazine, Gun World, Shooting Times and others and $20 later walk out with a stack of photos on damn near any firearms you wish to model if you dig for a while. Jane's is a good reference also if you don't mind spending a bit of cash. Web searches will gain you a lot of refernec photo's also. Even if you're doing origional stuff rather than an exact copy, firearms are going to have certain details and design features in common, just like knives and swords do that a study of photos will let you use to make your origional designs more convincing. Keep up the good work. You're doing an excellent job.