This is weird, after using poser pro 11 for months, i find this morning the graphs are missing.  i can right-click a parameter and select graph, i get 'Application commands: Add Graph Palette' in the log, but no graph window pops up.  In window / Graph i can see blue ticks next to the graphs i have opened, i can even select 'new' and create a new graph there, but no graph window ever shows up.

I've tried different saved files, window / Graph / remove all, and added more.  In general preferences, I've changed settings to 'launch to factory state', But i cannot get the graph palette to show on my screen.

Any ideas very welcome.

Could the graph be popping up off-screen, where you can't see it?

Question: Did you reboot Poser after changing the General Preferences to launch to factory state?

Sometimes when i go to setup room then right-click parameter and select Graph i get the window popping up, but its 0% height (so i have to resize it), which i think maybe is the problem.  Could it be that poser or windows 10 is detecting that the Graph Palette is 0% high and not rendering it on screen?  When i toggle back to Pose, the Graph Palette usually disappears again (though it remains active in window / graph) though.  Is there any file that controls UI Palette dimensions?

I did reboot after factory state setting.  It could be going off-screen, not sure how to test for that, i have only one monitor and one graphics card, and multiple displays not set up in Nvidia..

cortic posted at 3:28 AM Sat, 22 January 2022 - #4433592

Sometimes when i go to setup room then right-click parameter and select Graph i get the window popping up, but its 0% height (so i have to resize it), which i think maybe is the problem.  Could it be that poser or windows 10 is detecting that the Graph Palette is 0% high and not rendering it on screen?  When i toggle back to Pose, the Graph Palette usually disappears again (though it remains active in window / graph) though.  Is there any file that controls UI Palette dimensions?

I did reboot after factory state setting.  It could be going off-screen, not sure how to test for that, i have only one monitor and one graphics card, and multiple displays not set up in Nvidia..

Open up your file explorer, and jump to %APPDATA% 

This weill leads you to the roaming part of your profile. You will find there Poser12's and Poser11's home directories, (Poser11: it's under "Poser pro"). Each tool window has its location/size written room by room in an XML file of the form "Poser UI Prefs_1920x1080.xml" (replace "1920x1080" by your own screen definition).
Once your setup is correct, it's generally best to keep a backup of this file.
For example, my setup is spread over 3 screens

Y-Phil posted at 3:59 AM Sat, 22 January 2022 - #4433593

Open up your file explorer, and jump to %APPDATA% 

This weill leads you to the roaming part of your profile. You will find there Poser12's and Poser11's home directories, (Poser11: it's under "Poser pro"). Each tool window has its location/size written room by room in an XML file of the form "Poser UI Prefs_1920x1080.xml" (replace "1920x1080" by your own screen definition).
Once your setup is correct, it's generally best to keep a backup of this file.
For example, my setup is spread over 3 screens

Thanks, in <Room name="PoseRoom" > there were no references to 'GraphWindow' at all, in <Room name="SetupRoom" > there are 9 'GraphWindow_5' (plus 7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21).  Some rooms just have 'GraphWindow' with no number, some with random number.. there seem no logic to this. Did your file look like this?

I tried entering GraphWindow line from SetupRoom into PoseRoom, I seem to be getting Graph palette, now, even when i remove this entry ?!?.. but they get smaller in height each time i open a new Graph palette.. tried to add GraphWindow_0-5 all set to a good height, but changed nothing.

Will keep working with this, thanks again.

Ok, I thought that the grapth palette's loc/dsize were simply stored in the UI-related XML file, how wrong I was... Sorry about that.
It seems that its loc/size parameters are stored in poser.ini file

the values 249 and 168 changed as soon as I moved the window and closed Poser11. And it looks like it's the same for Poser12.