HTML and Web Scripting F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2024 Aug 27 11:03 am)
Jamball77 is absolutly correct! If you don't want anyone to have an image/file you MUST NOT post it. Even "watermarks" don't work as there is now a software I saw (cnet, I think) that claims to be able to remove Photoshop type "watermarks". You can however place a BIG UGLY logo directly onto the image. BUT if you post it on the net, someone out there will find it and abuse it. We no longer live in a world of 'flowers & roses' (actually, since 'people' arrived on earth, we never have...;-(
That's what I was saying, it's a bit more work actually finding the image in your cache and I did say it was easy enough, hell, I Just go in and search "by hand" and it never takes me more than 5 minutes, but all those that are paranoid about people saving their images will most likely jump all over that code...
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I've never really understoof that "right click" blocking thing anyway. I think it is basically one of those tricks that people who just start learning HTML use to thinkt hey are slick... like animated "email me!" icons :) Personally I run Proximitron, a way cool little free tool that let's me do simple re-writing of HTML as it goes by. I simply set up a rule to delete the javascript code that captures the right click and WHAMMO... my right click always works. The thing has a few hundred rules in it (you can config em) to disable pop-up windows and so on. It's pretty rocking.If you want to try to protect your pictures try using Flash 5 as it doesn't have a jpg or gif of the picture. It is embedded in the Flash file which even going through the cache won't let someone get your picture. Print screen still works though but then they don't really get a very good quality picture either with that.
Yeah, but that takes a bit of knowledge and a bit of effort. (Not a lot, but a bit.) There's a lot of people out there who wouldn't even know to look in their cache or do a print screen. (Trust me, I deal with this on a daily basis.) The right-click disable was designed to stop the really stupid from stealing. Yet again MS defeats Darwin. I wish they'd spend more time making stable products instead of new, cutesy garbage.
Hmmm, I wondered where it had gone, not quite what I had in mind but there you go.. This was more a question for those that use the right click blocking technique than a technical question relating exclusively to HTML, etc. Though I would say in my defense that untill today I didn't know there was such a forum, (not that I would have used it had I known mind you :) Though the direction this thread has gone is interesting in the context of another tread about Xp, where I argued that people didn't like it when they had to open the box, (to install the extra 64Mb needed to run Xp) which this thread seems to confirm :) Ah well, back to the poser forum for me :) later jb
There is another way to save pictures and stuff... File > Save As > Save. Here is another slick trick people like using. click back in the browser and their homepage relaods. Therefore you have to hit back really fast twice or exit the browser. You can also disable Javascript alltogether in IE, but you want be able to use R'osity's chat :(. I was going to use a right click script in my gallery that opens a different menu. But, I decided otherwise.
Not that it will matter much, but another way to prevent images you post, especially 3D images, is to use some format that doesn't enable saving -- even if it's in your cache. Examples include the previously mentioned Flash, but also VET -- that viewpoint thing from some company that used to have something to do with a bunch of our stuff... It loads a little slow on dial up, but it definitely keeps people from stealing images. Even if they have a VET tool...
thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)
Hmmm. I think Flash is definately the way to go... The Screen capture thing, yes well... "A screen shot will give them an image exactly as good as the one you were showing them :)" Well, it'll capture the screen... at THAT resolution, with the image sized to whatever... It means they'll have a crappy copy as you said bounlua. If they have a copy of Flash 5 (the studio, not the player) they can grab your .swf from the temporary internet folder and extract it (if you haven't made it tamper proof)... But then they'll have just single shot frame by frame animations, at the Flash Movie's rezzo... I guess it would be the same for other proggies that import flash format. You can also put into a Director Movie... Make it a Quick Time viewer file... Take it into Photoshop and write "THIEF" hidden in the pixels somewhere... Or just bite the bullet and set your art free :)... It's all just those who know their sh!t, trying to keep their sh!t safe, from those who don't know sh!t, but want to steal their sh!t. If you know your sh!t as well or better than they know their sh!t. They can't do sh!t... That link don't work by the by... do you have an up to date one? Luv Suze.
Hi, Well, I know a lot of shit. Including the fact that I "know shit" (to parapharse Kant :) though I must say that I pride myself on being able to circumvent almost any block put in my way, (no matter how much shit it gets me into :) it's a hacker/geek thing. Though on the "screen grab" front you're mistaken, since on a laptop at least, you can simply have a "virtual" screen, that is far bigger than the actual visible screen, so unless you're talking about an image larger than 1600x1200 then you can still do a "screen grab" since most software opperates off the frame buffer, not the visible screen. Also, more in keeping with where I originally intended this to go... :) With IE 6.0 besides the "buttons" it places on the image, it also "scales" images too large to fit, so that they do fit, which admittedly, will reduce the quality, but if it's too big for 1024x768 then you're not going to loose that much, at least not that much that photoshop can't straighten it out again... But, like I said, I was more interested on what people thought about the funtionality, rather than the behavior and way that'll supposedly stop it. later jb
"A screen shot will give them an image exactly as good as the one you were showing them :)" I've deffinetly heard of an program that can distort images beyond recognition if 'print-screen' copied from a website, I think it's embedded into the code or it's a file that is uploaded onto the server with the picture once a screen shot is taken picture is just "noise".
Depending on the tool you use and your experience with coding, it is possible to float a transparent dhtml layer over an image, blocking it from being clicked on. I'm looking for and trying to write the code myself, as enough people have complained about the slowness of the VET technology to make me look for something else. Once I get the script right, I'll post it here...
thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)
As I stated before the right click code wasn't designed with the intent to secure images, it was designed to deter code theft. There are tons of codes out there designed to stop the right click AND the IE6 features which brings up those annoying lil icons, there are also codes that stop the print sreen option an even from saving to your cache. The best solution to stop anyone from stealing your images is not to put it on the web, again.....the right click code was not designed to be a full force security feature, just a simple deterent, and if you really want some image and ya take the time to search thru your temp files or make some program that captures images etc etc then more power to you on your quest for that image....lol
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Hi, I'm sitting in an internet cafe, (and have been all evening :) and they've got IE6 installed, (new "Aqua" looking icon, nice ;) and I visited a site, where I though they had a failry slick backend that was inserting Active X or something into the images. But this turns out to be a function of IE6. What it does is allow you to save/email an image from directly within the image (pops up little icons.) So what are those people who rely on defeating the "right click" to prevent copyright infringement, etc. going to do about this "innovation"? Personally If I want an image I'll use thumbs plus to search though my cache, but there are that can't/don't one assumes :) Ideas? Comments? later jb