Hello,

As some know I'm stuck trying to get M4/ V4 to work. { morphs don't work. Multiple reinstalls haven't helped.

Finding and clicking "bat" files hasn't helped. Putting everything in same C folder hasn't helped }

1. Does L'homme need morphs? I don't see any loaded.

2. So far I like the look better than M4. It's taller, and lankier. This is what I'm trying to achieve with M4, who looks thicker and shorter, in general to me.

3. Can M4 clothes fit L'homme?

4. any other advice?

thanks

for your questions ...

1. A minimum of morphs come with L'Homme.  L'Homme Pro of course has more.  There are several excellent morph packs available in the RMP.

2. Glad to hear that.  He has some wonderful features.

3.  No ... but XDresser does have a plug-in to convert M4 clothing to fit L'Homme.  It is a very good product.  The base is free and the plug-ins are reasonably priced. 

There's also the fitting room for converting clothing. But's a little more involved, but it's free

I would recommend a little of both to refine the clothing that's being converted.  It all depends on what you intend to achieve at the end.

Thanks all for excellent info.

My newest question is:    apparently the problems with V4/ M4 install,  into Poser, are blamed on Daz,  and their poor/ or suspect coding.

So, will l'homme in --  Poser 11, 12, or 13 {?} --  have flawless install of morphs - from the simple get go ?   { being a modern Bondware coding? } Or are their potential gotchas and problems, possibly lurking here as well?   { tutorial available? }

thanks

DAZ3D V4/M4 morph installation is a unique situation and is not repeated with any other figures, either DAZ or not.  Barring file corruption, you shouldn't have any issues.  I am surprised that the DAZ Generation 4 figures are giving you so much trouble.  I have installed them and activated on a second computer without any issues.  It doesn't matter if you have them in a separate runtime or drive, the procedure remains the same.  The figures are installed into the runtime of your choice then install the morph package into the same runtime folder.  Activate the figure channels with the BAT file that is included with the installation.  My suggestion, if you have multiple morph files to install, i.e., Muscle, Creature, Elite, etc., load each package and activate separately so there is no confusion the channels. 

thanks,

I don't know.  But I will happily pay, for a SCRIPT that would track down the M4/ V4 install issues I'm experiencing.

If I remember well the installers of V4 and M4 assume the old arrangement with the Poser executable and the Runtime folder in the same master folder. The installer looks for a file 'Poser.exe' and puts the morphs stuff in a location relative to that file.  

Standards for program installation in Windows have changed since for very good reasons. Poser implemented the changes Microsoft called for but the M4 and V4 installers were not updated. (Note neutral tone here) 

To install V4/M4 from the installers you best fool them and add a file named 'Poser.exe' in the folder where the Runtime folder where you want to install the figure sits, and run the installer there. It does not matter what is inside that file. It can be empty. All that matters is that it has a name 'Poser.exe'. You can delete it once you have completed the install. 

Once installed, you have a content Runtime like any other. You can simply activate it from any version of Poser, copy it to new computers or add it to your cloud storage. 

thanks,  this is what I have so far.

This is wrong!  The runtime folder should be the secondary folder in the hierarchy, not that far down as you have it.  

sorry ,  heres a pic.   should be better.

That’s better, sorry.  Your morph files are in the wrong place.  They should be within the runtime folder.  In addition, you have DAZ content also installed. 

Exactly, how did you install M4 and V4?  I know this is derailing the original topic, but you seem to be having a terrible time initiating the CR2's.  Give me some idea of your installation workflow and what files you are using.

Not sure.  Some can import as zip files,  others are cut and paste. all fresh from Daz site.

these files are relatively small.  I'm surprised rendo doesn't have a package ready to install that just works.

"morph files are in the wrong place.  They should be within the runtime folder."

where exactly in the runtime folder?   can I just drag them in?  which files?

where does the fake exe file go?

does anyone have a tutorial?  

M4 and V4 are Daz property. Renderosity can't have them. It's not their figures. It's that simple.

Put the morph files inside the Runtime folder, yes, you can just drag them in.

I'm going to simplify this by inserting illustrations on how your runtime should look like.  The image are from my old Poser 7 that has been gutted and linked as a runtime to my other Poser versions but the hierarchy has remained untouched.  I will key point the important areas to watch for but do not try to exactly copy what I have set up.   Below illustrates where your fake 'Poser.exe' should be place, within the primary folder that holds your runtime.

Navigate down the runtime folder hierarchy to the Libraries folder, this where many of your Library categories, along with other types of folders and files, are stored.  Note the !DAZ folder, that is where your BAT folders are stored for morph channel initialisation.

Ignore anything with .COMMAND, those are for MAC OS.

Whenever you install a morph package, the corresponding .BAT file must be initiated to active more morph channels.  The channels are already embedded in the figures, they just need to be initialised.

Going back into Libraries, navigate to the Pose > DAZ People folder, that is where all your DAZ based figures will be installed.

This is how the DAZ installers intend to place your content, you do not really decide where the content goes unless you are very proficient at changing internal code.

Going further down the hierarchy rabbit hole, this is my morph injection folder for Victoria 4.  Note the path in the red box.  This is how DAZ places it's content.

The major problem with the DAZ content zips are that they are designed to be installed with their DAZ Install Manager software which is not so easy to work with unless you spend quality time understanding how it works.  I'm a wiz at it so I have no problems installing content in both Poser and DAZStudio but there are others that are very intimidated by it and just prefer to install content manually.  I do it occasionally and very often with free content that I am often correcting. 

I hope these images give you an understanding of how runtimes are set up and should be set up to maintain some cohesive order and to allow the files' internal codes find associated contents so that figures and props load into Poser properly.  I gather from some of your comments that you are a visual learner, you need images and videos to demonstrate how things are done.

wow.  a real tutorial!  thank you.  I will have to study this.