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Subject: Character creation issues


Boni ( ) posted Sun, 14 January 2024 at 12:28 PM · edited Thu, 07 November 2024 at 5:16 AM

Hi! I am trying to gather my questions onto a single thread.  I have ASD and it causes some disorganization ... Though I do try to compensate, it doesn't always work.  I have a couple issues that have already been addressed but I have lost the threads.

1. When creating the injection morphs (dialed only) how does one save for redistribution? This is for La Femme2.

2. When trying to save these morphs which include creating a shorter stature the posing chips do not follow the figure change. I am on my Kindle and cannot show a screen capture. Also, in some saves the figure becomes distorted.


I need a step by step instruction to fully understand.  Thanx in advance for your help.

Boni



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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sun, 14 January 2024 at 4:20 PM

1. For dialed characters, I usually save the character as a figure to my library, then use Poser File Editor to strip it into a dials pose. PFE is sadly no longer available - if you don't have it, you might need to hack the file some other way, in which case someone else would be better help than I would.

But if this character is dialed using morphs from BodyFX and FaceFX, they're merchant resources. You can Spawn Morph Target into a single dial, and use Poser's Export Morph INJ on that instead :)

2. Did you Match Centers to Morph on that? 

Ok, step by step to follow.


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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sun, 14 January 2024 at 4:33 PM · edited Sun, 14 January 2024 at 4:34 PM

Dialed a body shape. 

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Figure > Spawn Full Body Morph

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It'll ask for a name. To make your life easier for later, give it the final internal name you prefer. User-facing name can be changed later if you'd like. 

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It'll likely be at the very bottom of her Body Parameters.

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Now, zero everything else and dial it in. Yes, chips might be in the wrong placing if you used morphs that change body proportions.

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This also means she'll pose very oddly. :D

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Right-click your new morph's dial and choose Match Centers to Morph.

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Make sure Create Dependencies is on.

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Ta-da. Now she poses correctly AND the body chips should be in place.

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If you wanna do some clean up/setting up, you can right-click the dial again and go to Settings...

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Here, you can change the user-facing name of the dial, and set limits. For most morphs, you want to change the min limit to 0 and max limit to 1, so that people won't be dialing the morph into negatives or doubling it up.

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Now go to file > Export > Morph Injection...

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Select None first, then find your new body dial in the Body section and select only that. Click OK and decide where to save.

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If this is going to the store or something, there's some file cleaning up you'll have to do after this process.


Also remember to ONLY use Spawn Morph Target with morphs that are merchant resources, unless you're only making something for your own personal use.

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Boni ( ) posted Sun, 14 January 2024 at 7:56 PM

Ohki! Thank you so much! I will do this when I get bsck on my work machine.

Boni



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jancory ( ) posted Mon, 15 January 2024 at 5:34 AM

Boni, thank you for asking this question, now my own scaled character works.  thanks ohki!!


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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 15 January 2024 at 6:35 AM · edited Mon, 15 January 2024 at 6:35 AM

It's my pleasure! 


I was asked how to clean up the files for the store, so here comes extra info! For this, I'll use a LF2 character I'm working on right now - she's custom-sculpted but this part of the process is the same from a dial spun+spawned morph.


Ok, so once I saved the INJ poses from Poser into a Pose folder, they looked like this:

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(Don't mind the file dates, I started work on this project back when LF2 was still a wip ;D )

There are four files here because I saved the head morph and the body morph separately - but you should have one .pmd file and one .pz2 file for each time you Export Morph Injection.

Now, to be safe, make a backup copy of these files. I'm gonna skip this step because I'm so used of doing this that I'm pretty confident I'm not gonna flunk this LMAO.

Now move your .pmd file(s) into the Geometry folder, under folders of your preference for your organization. I use, and the store usually prefers if you do, a folder with my vendor name and then another folder in it with the product name.

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If you'd like, rename these to make things neater now.

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Now go back to your .pz2 file(s) in the Pose folder, and open it in a decent text editor. Make sure it's an editor that is pure text only and won't save out formatting and other useless (for this) info with your file. I use EditPad Lite, but even Windows Notepad will do though it's more limited and would probably crash on larger files. INJ poses tend to be pretty tame though.

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Your file should start similarly to this. Poser files start with a version number - this is the first thing to change. Delete the "build" line altogether, and change "number" to the lowest Poser version your product will support. For LF2 characters, this should be 11 - LF2 doesn't work in Poser 10 or lower.

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Now we need to redirect this to the new location of the .pmd file. Notice there's a line with "injectPMDFileMorphs" with a file address that should direct to where you initially saved your injection Pose. Copy the address.

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Now use the Find&Replace tool of your text editor for the next step. EditPad Lite has a section at the bottom for multi-line replacing and that's why I love it, but it should work with Notepad's "Replace..." feature or whatever similar thing you're using. Paste the address you copied into the "Find" or "Search" part, and for the replace, fix it for the new address and file name. In my case, this:

:Runtime:Libraries:Pose:!Afrodite:LaFemme2:Characters:Morana:Morana_BodyINJ.pmd

becomes this:

:Runtime:Geometries:AfroditeOhki:Morana:AO_Morana_Body.pmd

Be careful that you don't paste "\" that Windows uses for files. Poser likes ":"s in its file addresses.

You need to Find&Replace for this because there's a chance that the INJ files reference this more than once.

Now my file looks like this:

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The next step is optional but customers like it: We'll set it up so that the morph loads dialed full.

Find your BODY actor's "targetGeom" section, like the one you can see right above. This is likely near the start of the file anyway.

After the targetGeom line, you should have a line with {. Find the next } there, that indicates it's closing the details of that targetGeom (morph dial). Right before it, you'll add this:

keys

{

k 0 1

}


This will add key (dial value) information to your dial. The k is for key, I don't know what the first number is for but it's always 0, and the second number is the value for the dial you'll want. Likely 1.

File should look something like this now.

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Save it and you're done.

You can have tools like wolfnom's Fix-a-File do this process for you. It won't add the keys though, but that's the easiest part for me.

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ThunderStone ( ) posted Mon, 15 January 2024 at 8:12 AM

Okhi, thank you for sharing this wonderful tutorial!  Always wondered about this. 


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jancory ( ) posted Mon, 15 January 2024 at 8:16 AM

does the command to match centers save somewhere in the INJ files?


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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 15 January 2024 at 2:10 PM
jancory posted at 8:16 AM Mon, 15 January 2024 - #4480395

does the command to match centers save somewhere in the INJ files?

In the pz2 file. I believe it adds lines for each bone it affects.

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jancory ( ) posted Mon, 15 January 2024 at 2:47 PM

so probably best & less work to re-export my INJ with that turned on.  thanks!


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Boni ( ) posted Tue, 16 January 2024 at 1:53 PM

Wow, I need to save this thread where I can ALWAYS find it!!  Thank you So So Much for this. 

Boni



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ThunderStone ( ) posted Tue, 16 January 2024 at 3:04 PM

Someone admin should pin this? 


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RedPhantom ( ) posted Tue, 16 January 2024 at 4:05 PM
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I can pin it, but that won't keep it from disappearing from inactivity. It will only keep it from getting buried.


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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Tue, 16 January 2024 at 4:06 PM

I'm checking if we can put this in the tutorials section :)

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Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.


odf ( ) posted Tue, 16 January 2024 at 4:58 PM

Thanks for that, Ohki, very helpful! Pardon my silly question, but what is the rationale behind moving the .pmd files into the geometry folder? Is it just to keep things tidy, or is there a functional advantage, too?

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Tue, 16 January 2024 at 6:52 PM
odf posted at 4:58 PM Tue, 16 January 2024 - #4480449

Thanks for that, Ohki, very helpful! Pardon my silly question, but what is the rationale behind moving the .pmd files into the geometry folder? Is it just to keep things tidy, or is there a functional advantage, too?

To keep things tidy + store requirements + if the person rearranges their library files, and you have the file pointing to a .pmd that was in a specific folder that got changed, it'll stop working!

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Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.


odf ( ) posted Tue, 16 January 2024 at 7:09 PM
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 6:52 PM Tue, 16 January 2024 - #4480450
odf posted at 4:58 PM Tue, 16 January 2024 - #4480449

Thanks for that, Ohki, very helpful! Pardon my silly question, but what is the rationale behind moving the .pmd files into the geometry folder? Is it just to keep things tidy, or is there a functional advantage, too?

To keep things tidy + store requirements + if the person rearranges their library files, and you have the file pointing to a .pmd that was in a specific folder that got changed, it'll stop working!
Good point! Paths are absolute, so better use ones that won't change. 👍

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AmbientShade ( ) posted Wed, 17 January 2024 at 2:32 PM
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:20 PM Sun, 14 January 2024 - #4480374

1. For dialed characters, I usually save the character as a figure to my library, then use Poser File Editor to strip it into a dials pose. PFE is sadly no longer available


PFE is still available in the power tools bundle:

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/53947/poser-power-tools

There is also the binary morph editor that will create INJ/REM poses for you. 



Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Wed, 17 January 2024 at 2:57 PM

AmbientShade posted at 2:32 PM Wed, 17 January 2024 - #4480472

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:20 PM Sun, 14 January 2024 - #4480374

1. For dialed characters, I usually save the character as a figure to my library, then use Poser File Editor to strip it into a dials pose. PFE is sadly no longer available


PFE is still available in the power tools bundle:

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/53947/poser-power-tools

There is also the binary morph editor that will create INJ/REM poses for you. 

OOOH 

Ok yeah the full bundle is pricey but those tools are amazing. I have most of them, bought individually.

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Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.


odf ( ) posted Wed, 17 January 2024 at 4:07 PM

Here's a little tip for coders: it's quite possible that your coding editor or IDE can collapse the sections enclosed in brackets, which is basically the key to editing Poser files without special tools while staying sane. The one I use, vscode, is very good at that, and if I recall, the feature was quite easy to enable.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 18 January 2024 at 1:35 AM

odf posted at 4:07 PM Wed, 17 January 2024 - #4480478

Here's a little tip for coders: it's quite possible that your coding editor or IDE can collapse the sections enclosed in brackets, which is basically the key to editing Poser files without special tools while staying sane. The one I use, vscode, is very good at that, and if I recall, the feature was quite easy to enable.

It looks like, indeed

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Thu, 18 January 2024 at 11:21 AM

Oooh that's SUPER handy. Thank you!

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PoserWorld2019 ( ) posted Sat, 20 January 2024 at 9:06 AM

Brilliant thread, Afrodite_Ohki and Y-Phil are presenting gold nuggets to the Poser Creators here. Thanks and  Kudos


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