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Subject: weird render


drawn ( ) posted Mon, 13 May 2024 at 11:07 AM · edited Mon, 18 November 2024 at 3:21 PM

this scene was way overlit with 23 lights, so after watching Charles Taylor's tutorial on lighting, I started eliminating some got it down to about half that the preview looked pretty good so I tried a render...ach, Himmel, a mess.

why?

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drawn ( ) posted Mon, 13 May 2024 at 12:14 PM · edited Mon, 13 May 2024 at 12:14 PM

here's render settings for thaT. I m surprise it is for firefly cause I thot the other, so rendered the same scene in superfly and render settings for thaT. big diff.

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well, I learnt from that stick with super, but need to fix the lights more simply.

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RedPhantom ( ) posted Mon, 13 May 2024 at 2:03 PM
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It's difficult to judge the lighting of a render by what the preview looks like. There's a limitation of 6 or 7 lights that can be displayed in the preview. Your best bet if you think you need a lot of lights is to do low-quality test renders on a small scale. even the 10 or so you mention seems excessive but it will depend on the look you're going for and how bright you have them


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hborre ( ) posted Mon, 13 May 2024 at 2:07 PM

Your lights are still overpowering the scene.  You need to examine the intensity of each light and what is its contribution to the scene.  This is a theater set.  Expect the audience section to be shrouded in shadow while the stage is well-lit.  If you are simulating a well-lit room, determine what type of lights are appropriate to evenly illuminate the selected area.  You want to use down-pointing spotlights or area lights to achieve a better effect, and they should be of low intensity.  Too many lights can put a strain on your computer's resources.  Additionally, Poser can only display 6 active light sets at a time in Preview mode, all other lights will not be considered unless one of the original six is turned off.


Y-Phil ( ) posted Mon, 13 May 2024 at 2:52 PM · edited Mon, 13 May 2024 at 2:53 PM

And be sure that your spots and points lights have the correct setting:

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drawn ( ) posted Mon, 13 May 2024 at 3:16 PM

thanks sb and Red, and Phil your signature pic is a real cutie, and I do not understand your spots and point light settings. what, for inst. is an inverse square in regards to ray trace shadows?

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hborre ( ) posted Mon, 13 May 2024 at 4:24 PM · edited Mon, 13 May 2024 at 4:24 PM

It has nothing to do with raytrace shadows.  Without getting into the specific scientific explanation, the inverse square law pertaining to lighting is a falloff of illumination with distance from a light source.  This can easily be demonstrated in Poser by placing a point light in a scene and changing its attenuation from Constant to Inverse Square.  Below are 2 renders: the first is a light source with constant attenuation at an intensity of 100%.

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The second render is the same light source at the same intensity but with its attenuation set to Inverse Square.

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As you can see, there is significant light falloff with distance in the second render, this is the typical behavior of realistic lighting.




drawn ( ) posted Mon, 13 May 2024 at 6:18 PM

Ahhah!thanks!



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