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Subject: Poser 4 to Bryce 3D, why won't it work? Please someone help me!


VegiDog ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 12:52 PM · edited Thu, 28 November 2024 at 1:51 AM

I have had these programs for years now, always wanted to get a poser 4 figure into Bryce 3D and use the poser 4 textures on it, I have never been able to do this. I use bryce mainly for backgrounds for my work in photoshop, etc... I use poser for the body parts (Hands, Face, skeletons, etc...) Now, I've read countless tutorials on how to move a Poser >>3<< figure into bryce 3d and add texture maps, i've read tutorials on how to move poser >>4<< figures into bryce 4, so figure I should take the parts on the poser 4 part, and the bryce 3d part... It's not working! I've tried for hours and hours, over years and years. Always thinking "I almost got it, just gotta change this, or add this, or, or..." Then I give up and forget about it. Here is one I am reading now that I recently found... http://www.digitalproducer.com/pages/poser3_to_bryce3d.htm Now this looks like a great tutorial, the problem is I have poser 4, and this isn't working... So the steps I have memorized... Start poser, create your basic whatever. (I use Default P4 Nude Female) Pose it, Save it as a Wavefront Obj, Single frame. Then they always say something is going to popup asking a question, only thing that pops up is the selection screen for which parts I want to export, I read somewhere to export everything except the ground, so I deselect the ground. I save the figure... I open Bryce 3D, Import figure, smooth figure, click on U to ungroup the parts, deselect the hair (I usually just delete it) then select the other parts and group them back together. Click M for the materials editor, click on Diffuse and Ambient. Then click P, then the pinkish button above the P, this brings up the leo page, I click load on the far right (I have done it every way, left, middle, right, etc...) and load P4 Nude Women Tex.Tif or whatever it is. It shows that texture in the far left window and far right window. In the middle window it is black. CLick the checkmark, make sure it is on Parametric, and click the triangle. Doesn't work. Another tutorial says to paste the texture on the middle window which makes it grey, and makes the far right window almost invisible (in the leo page), that doesn't work, I try using Paramtric World, etc... Please someone help me out here... I see tutorials on Poser 3 to Bryce, poser 4 to bryce 4, what about poser 4 to bryce 3D? Is it suppose to be the same as poser 3 to bryce 3d? If so then why isn't it working? I thought maybe I need patches since I have downloaded it onto my new computer, but I can't find poser 4 patches, or bryce 3D patches. I know their are some because my bryce copy on my old computer has them, but it doesn't work on that computer either. Please someone help me! This texturing thing is just about the only thing I have problems with. Argh.


Kiera ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 1:56 PM

Hmm.. I nver go through the grouping, regrouping, and smoothing steps, but I have Bryce 4. What exactly doesn't work? Is your texture applied when you render the figure, but incorrectly? Or is no texture applied whatsoever? Make sure you are copying the texture into the alpha channel in the Pictures dialog box or else Bryce will consider the white sections of the P4W texture PART of the texture. The Alpha section makes sure that ONLY the colored parts are applied to the figure.


thgeisel ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 2:15 PM

As far as i know , in bryce 3d you have to flip the textures or something like that.its not working like in bryce 4 or 5. Place the question in the bryce-forum. And a really good tut on texturing you find at www.brycetech.com ( you dont need to ungroup everything,there is an easier way)


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 2:28 PM

Yep .. there is a 90 degree rotation in one axis .. I can't remeber which one off hand since it has been a while and all.



VegiDog ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 3:54 PM

"Is your texture applied when you render the figure, but incorrectly? Or is no texture applied whatsoever?" It is on the figure, but not right... I have made texture maps for a couple models I have, with the whole Alpha channel bump map, etc thing... I don't know how to do figures like this though because usually I only did one side on my models... "And a really good tut on texturing you find at www.brycetech.com ( you dont need to ungroup everything,there is an easier way) " Yeah I've read that one. It is for Bryce 4 though, I have read the links they provided for Bryce 3D though, still can't get it to work... I am considering buying Bryce 5 for a Xmas present for myself, anyone know how well Corel has done with it? Is it worth the upgrade?


TalmidBen ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 4:10 PM

I had this problem also, and Bryce 4 and 5 work perfect with Poser 4, automatically applying the textures! When I had Poser 3, it frustrated me to death, but get B5 and it should all work out well. Also, make sure you have the most updated Poser, Poser 4.03, or something like that. I do think Bryce 5 is worth the upgrade, as I purchased it. However, my complaint is that renders take FOREVER! And I think I'm going to have to expand my RAM . . .


TalmidBen ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 4:11 PM

I should say that many folks are not as impressed with B5 as I am. It is not a huge leap for the product, but the Tree Lab really helps!


VegiDog ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 4:16 PM

Thanks for the info. I think I will get Bryce5. I've been trying to dl the trial version, but it won't work so i'll just have to buy it, I can get it for a pretty good price on ebay... Anyone have some websites with info on the new Bryce 5? The corel website is kind of thin... I would love to know the new improvements... I hear the rendering engine is new? And I hear poser 4 brings the textures automatically when transfered if in the same directory? What else has been improved?


Cheryle ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 5:16 PM

go to chemicalstudios.com kenS has a lot of good stuff for bryce 5 and Brycetech.com is also another great place to hang out


mglant ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 7:57 PM

Why don"t you try Natural Pose? see... http://innuendo.ev.ca/NatPose/Help.htm this automatically moves Poser into Bryce, they have a nearly full functional demo and I think it is $99. You seem to have spent more than that in valuable time! Good Luck Mick


3-DArena ( ) posted Mon, 26 November 2001 at 9:23 PM

Vegidog I feel your pain, I have never been able to get poser 4 into Bryce 3D either, and Ive used that brycetech tutorial and never ever does it work.... I have also tried to download the bryce 5 demo but it refuses tod ownload for me.... they say it will download a helper file first that will restart the download but after 8 hours and constant disconnections, I have yet to download the "helper" file. I even went to the trouble of looking really stupid and asking them if I could get a demo shipped to me LOL, I knew what they'd say, but it was worth a try. After all I never would have bought bryce 3D if I'd known the problems I'd have with it....


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Huolong ( ) posted Tue, 27 November 2001 at 4:59 AM

On initial export, deselect everything first, then select the figure with all parts you want to export, then go through the export process. Deselecting just the ground may leave the universe still tagging along.

Gordon


Phantast ( ) posted Tue, 27 November 2001 at 10:34 AM

It doesn't matter WHAT you have selected when you export. A window appears with everything in your scene and offers to export the lot (except the ground). If you only have one figure, you just accept it. If you have two figures and you only want to export one, uncheck the one you don't want. Once you have the 3.1 patch, Poser works very nicely with B3D and I never had much trouble. Bryce 4 is a lot better, though - for a start, it's a lot quicker at importing obj files. You still need to retexture Poser models in B4 and B5, because the textures only come in partially and ususally need to be tweaked. Natural Pose is expensive for what it does. I paid about $99 for Bryce 4 itself (upgrade from B3) and $99 for just an import utility is too much - unless money is no object to you.


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 27 November 2001 at 12:01 PM

Flip your texture vertically in a paint program first (top to bottom). Try that. It works in Vue. I didn't know that you had to flip textures at all in Bryce in any version, but it's worth a shot. Laurie



VegiDog ( ) posted Tue, 27 November 2001 at 12:53 PM

Thanks a lot everyone. I'm gonna go find that poser patch and see if that works. I am still considering upgrading to bryce 5 just because of the the new Tree Lab/Light Lab and more control over renderings (Depth of field etc...) I appreciate all the help a lot. Thanks.


Phantast ( ) posted Wed, 28 November 2001 at 5:17 AM

Flipping textures files in a paint program is doing it the hard way, when you can flip it internally in Bryce without having to create a new file.


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 November 2001 at 5:09 PM

Well, wasn't sure how to do that Phantast since I'm a Vue'er, not a Brycer nearly as much ;). And I don't remember ever having to flip a texture in Bryce at all anyway, even with version 4. Not too familiar at all with version 3 Bryce. I have 5, but my son uses it much more than I do :). Laurie



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