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Subject: Adult vs Hatchling Dragon: for anyone interested in knowing the differences


MallenLane ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 5:19 PM · edited Fri, 10 January 2025 at 11:43 AM

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For anyone unsure, the adult version of the dragon is a completely new model, and not a morph for the Hatchling. Poly count of the models are as follows. Adult 31,322 Hatchling 22,692 Most of the additional polygon density was put in places where they would be most needed for an adult; muscle group isolation, more articulate wings, and a considerable amount in the head for more morphing ability. The adult has different mapping, fully poseable wings, and although it will conform basically to Hatchling poses, there are some bends that would have to be tweaked. My goal was to get a dragon that looked to be of the same species, just more developed. I'm showing them here together, with the adult scaled up 180%. I didn't make the adult to intended scale by default simply because I was trying to keep it somewhat in the standard viewport size range.


Cin- ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 6:18 PM

Michael, I saw this beastie over at Daz earlier today, and I know one thing that I'll be getting with the gift certificates that I've told everyone who asked, to buy me for christmas. :) Will you be making a mer-tail for this one as well?


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 7:25 PM

Maybe I'm just dense, but I was just at DAZ and didn't see it. And I went over strickly for this model. Laurie



jaybutton ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 7:39 PM

Hey Laurie, For some reason the adult hatchling dragon is on the second page of the new releases. Jay By the way, Michael, your dragon is great!



MallenLane ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 7:49 PM

Thanks =)


Strangechilde ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 8:19 PM

Just a shameless plug for a product with which I am not in any way associated... The Daz dragons are nice, but in my humble opinion they have nothing on Dragon Factory. Yes, DF costs $80 whereas the Daz adult dragon is $24.95, but if you consider that you get literally hundreds of possible dragons, plus props such as numerous and varied spines, horns and wings that you can use with human figures as well with a little modification, DF is a must-have if you're into dragons. Plus, I find the DF figures much more believable than the Daz dragons (which still seem a wee bit cartoony to me). The possibilities for creating your own monstrosities with DF are just about limitless, and you get well-crafted hi-res figures. It's extraordinarily good value for the price. Dragon Factory is available from http://dragonfactory.3dmenagerie.com/ Check out the gallery.


sturkwurk ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 8:31 PM

The Adult Dragon looks fantastic... now to save up the cash needed to add him to my managerie!

I came, I rendered, I'm still broke.


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 8:36 PM

I WANT THEM ALL! ;) Laurie



AprilYSH ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 9:03 PM

which still seem a wee bit cartoony to me I think that was one of the selling points g Great job MallenLane. Gift certificates... of course!!! Will have to start telling the family... hehheh

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lalverson ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2001 at 9:12 PM

Just bought it.. it's sweeeet!!! thanks Mr Lane!!!! Lee


Director ( ) posted Thu, 13 December 2001 at 9:28 AM

Thanks Michael for explaining the differences. I was hoping there would be some geometry difference. Oh boy another dragon to add lip synch morph targets too =)


MallenLane ( ) posted Thu, 13 December 2001 at 11:35 AM

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I do have some ideas for a conforming set of props, but I haven't yet decided if there's enough interest. And I think just using the morphs and scaling you can come up with more than one style of dragon. You are also comparing a seamless mesh model with one which is not.


Director ( ) posted Thu, 13 December 2001 at 12:27 PM

I'm sure conforming props like horns fins and such would do well as would things like dragon riding props; saddles harnesses, etc.


Kiera ( ) posted Thu, 13 December 2001 at 12:52 PM

Wow.. you just did that with morphs? He looks fantastic. I have been wanting the dragon factory CD for a long time, but I am not too confident about my ability to mush body parts together in poser.. not to mention the immense amount of texturing I would have to do. I have the hatchling (used him for my Christmas cards this year.. don't ask) but have been itching for some good poser dragon action for awhile. My ideal poser dragon would have folding wings, morphable spine props (heart shaped, spiked, curved), morphable horn props (curved, straight), and body morphs (lean flyer, fat treasure hoarder).


visualkinetics ( ) posted Thu, 13 December 2001 at 5:26 PM

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My only criticism (and I hope it's a constructive one) is that the adult eyes are too small. I'm sure it's probably anatomically correct that eyes don't grow that much bigger as you age, but it does enlarge some doesn't it? Compare the proportions between the adult and the young one. It looks like his poor eyes shrank as he grew. Even if it's not anatomically correct, I think it would be nice to the option to enlarge the eyes on the adults to show off some fantastic dragon eye textures. If you would consider making a morph and releasing it for free, I'll buy it right away. I have the hatchling and I am very happy with it.


Kiera ( ) posted Thu, 13 December 2001 at 6:13 PM

Actually, I think the eyes are right... Eyes on young creatures look huge in relation to the rest of their faces and diminish in appearance as their heads grow. My cat had giant bug eyes as a kitten, and now they are much less so. But still, I think bigger eyes would be nice to have for detailed headshots.


MallenLane ( ) posted Thu, 13 December 2001 at 8:30 PM

Kieraw: Yes, that's jsut using scaling and the morphs that come with the adult. I have thought out and drawn some sketches of conforming morphing prop sets for them both. The wings on the adult dragon are fully poseable in 5 sections; and include a partial pose for easy folding. visualkinetics: I have also thought about partial body morphs for the eyes, on both... one to make the hatchling's eyes smaller, and the adults bigger... I have unreleased hatchling morphs laying around that are full body. And a facial morph for the adult that didn't make it in, that's pretty different looking from the default face. Unfortunately, I am one person so its takes a while to gather enough of those things to make something substantial. =)


Talos ( ) posted Fri, 14 December 2001 at 8:04 PM

A worthy product. Without the wings, it would resemble my childhood friend "Gorgo". Anyone remember that movie? The British Godzilla? The eyes are just right. Anything else would be wrong. An animals eyes get proportionately smaller in direct relation to large size. If you don't believe me, check out elephants, whales, the ever-popular T-Rex.


RonGC ( ) posted Fri, 14 December 2001 at 10:13 PM

The picture you submited with the morfs applied sold me and i bought the Dragon. Been playing with it a bit and have come to the conclusion that i like it a lot. An excellent creature to be sure. Great work Keep em coming.

RonGC


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