Free? Most modelers, artisits etc. place restrictions on their free items. Do Not use for commercial use or, do not repackage or redistribute this file, copyright on the texture, or a simple requirement if the item is used in an image to give credit to the artist.

I hear people here ranting on about freestuff having to be fully non restrictive. Nice concept but this is not how the real world works. Artists want to maintain their rights to their creations. And rightly so. If you want to restrict all downloads to Freestuff as totaly free items with no restrictions what so ever you might as well say goodbye to 99% of the downloads.

By restricting Posercity and others from contributing "free" items to this site you are stepping on the rights of an artist to control their creations and cheating your "renderosity" members out of access to free items that they may otherwise be unaware of. Most of us out here in Cyberland just want to be able to access files not squabbles and nit picking over Dictionary definitions.

I see people on this site using items i supplied to freestuff at 3d commune a while back. Maybe we should restrict them from uploading those images to Renderosity scince they are created with items from a competitors site, Nah, that would be Childish just like this whole complaint.

RonGC

Attached Link: http://www.posercity.com

Okay, I'll just jump right in here too...I'm a member also of Posercity and I just love the place. Greybo thanks for your hard work to give the artists another place to gather :) That being said, how about this...wait until after the first week that the freestuff on PoserCity is offered, then post it here? That way no one will "have" to become a member if they don't want in order to get the free download. I see nothing wrong with another site offering something first to it's members before those that are not members. It's called a "perk". It is called the right of someone to run their website the way that they want to...a "freedom" so to speak. If you don't want to be a member, wait a week and go back and get it, no one said that those that contribute their products without requiring cash to be involved have to make it easy for us. Geez...get a grip.... Ron, I don't know you really. Just impressions that I get from your postings that I have read here and there. I think that first of all, if you had a complaint about this, it should have been brought up to an admin or a moderator, not in the Poser forum. If you wanted to post in a forum, this seems much more appropriate in the C&D then it does here. Just my observation. It's getting harder and harder to host freestuff. The fact that the link goes to just the website shouldn't be a problem, there are lots of those links in the freestuff area and I hardly believe that it is some underhanded, deceitful plan. It's free, it's free, it's free..someone put hard work into this and instead of stampeding to the store, they decided to give it away....is it too much to ask that we have to make a few mouse clicks to find it? Pendy

If you want to get really paranoid and silly about things, everything in Freestuff violates the rules as they all require you to buy a PC/MAC and at least a copy of Poser, try posting something that doesn't require poser or a machine to use it on. I'm not taking the p*ss, just trying to show how daft this row is. I found the link and went to posercity and I'm now a member, that doesn't mean Rosity is going to lose me as a member, it just means I've got somewhere else to go to get my hands on those lovely freebies. I'm also a member of 3dcommune,3darena,renderotica and a couple of others, they all have different things that you can't get on the other sites. If there's only 1 place to post stuff people will soon get bored and go on to something else, competition is always good, just look at what's happened to the WWF since WCW disappeared, they are stagnating and that'll happen here if you stop people linking to their own community sites. thanks for not falling asleep while I waffled on.

Being a Libertarian you can probably guess where I stand. The more freedom of choice and lack of restriction on it the better. The growth of "free" enterprise is directly related to the minimal restriction by government. I get tired of those critical of the entrepreneur. The diversity and openess of this site will define its success. I warn those who want to morally or economically dictate policy based on their preference and not on actions that truly hurt others. That should define fairness. If you don't like it don't go there (you know who posts these in the free section). Show a little "self-responsibility" rather than recruiting the rest of us to police your preferences. By the way I am not supporting this just because it is the apparent majority opinion. This is based on the fact that personal freedom rather than group preference should also be the goal of social order. Go for it Greybro! Mick Glant

Show a little "self-responsibility" rather than recruiting the rest of us to police your preferences. Thank you for my pick for quote of the year.

I have a question: Why isn't ronstuff complaining about having to be a registered member of Renderosity to be able to even GET TO the free stuff section???? For all those that complain about the things in free stuff: "I had this horse I wanted to give you but didn't have the time to stand around while you counted it's teeth."

LOL I agree with Im4Angels, I also see a growing trend here at 'rosity that isn't pretty. PoserCity looks really great, and I for one welcoe new sites of thise sort to expand the arena for 3D artists. As for free, well gee, if it requires you to buy vicky, michael SMV, VV, MM or their clothing pack, then it isn't free either. Get over it all folks. This is a vast web and there is frankly room for everyone, although genearlly those who put the artists and their needs first will come out ahead in the long run. Look at DAZ they are phenomenal in their customer support and truly go out of their way for us.

Oh lighten up people...some kind folks are giving away free stuff and you're moaning about it! How about those bods who start out giving freebies and then go all ' well people are misusing the downloads yaddah yaddah yaddah'. Granted it's soooooooo hard to register with Poser City and after all who else insists on registering before you can get fre....oh, ermm sorry Renderosity rulers, no offence meant ;). In short..you want the freebies but you don't want to support a website that gives them...grow up! Mon ps:Whats this Poser thing anyway?

Attached Link: http://www.3dmodelz.com

just gotta put my 2 cents in .... all this cryin about "how" someone gives something away for free seems a little nuts...