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Subject: Realistic Waves


GhostWizard ( ) posted Sat, 02 February 2002 at 8:15 PM · edited Sat, 30 November 2024 at 10:01 AM

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Hi people I need a little advice. Its a bit complicated but I know you will help me(I hope so). I was wondering one thing, how to make a great wave like this one shown on the picture. I tried so many times to make something similar but I couldnt. If you can please help me if not then...nothing:)


Tekchip ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 1:12 AM

I second that. It's obviously rendered but I havn't seen any software that could pull that off. At least not at this causal level. Any one have any ideas? Maya? SoftImage?


Quikp51 ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 4:57 AM

That could be any app or plug-in really. There are people in the gallery that have done nice looking waves using Bryce.


tradivoro ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 1:47 PM

I think that this might be world builder.. I was recently looking at a their page, and they are the only people where I've seen great waves without any post... I didn't see anything like this though But yeah, I think in Bryce, something like this might be impossible..


Alleycat169 ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 3:58 PM

I think if you generated a nice moundlike terrain in Bryce and exported it as a DXF. You could then import it into InfiniD4.5 or some other app with a modeler with magnetic pull, and "pull and twist" it into a more wavelike shape. Then you'd have to import it back into Bryce, texture and render it. Come to think of it, you could probably export to Poser as an OBJ file, use a magnet to shape it and export it back to Bryce as an OBJ. Either way, you need to pull and twist a terrain file to get that surf effect. I have seen it done in Bryce so I know it is possible. Try experimenting until you get something that looks right. There is also a freeware program called Wavesworld, do a web search and you'll find it. It creates wave trough bump maps that you can then import into the terrain editor in Bryce. They are very symetrical though.


Tekchip ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 4:02 PM

GhostWizard where did you find this pic? Do you know what artist created it?


Alleycat169 ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 4:18 PM

That's a photograph, not a 3D image. I'd bet it's out or Surf Magazine.


GhostWizard ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 4:23 PM

alleycat169 is right...this is a photo:( Pitty...


Tekchip ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 5:01 PM

I'm not so sure it's a photo. Look at the caps there to streaky especially in the foreground. If it is a photo it's been doctored a bit.


Alleycat169 ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 5:17 PM

Look closer, depth of field, hard highlights and shadow, superrealistic texture and transparency. I'm a professional photographer, give me a LITTLE credit for knowing a photo when I see one.


tradivoro ( ) posted Sun, 03 February 2002 at 7:53 PM

Hey Alleycat, thanks for that tip about magnets and poser.. You're right, with the right working you can definitely get something that looks like more wave like... I'm not that hip with poser, but now that you mention it, I can see the possibility...


howdydooo ( ) posted Mon, 04 February 2002 at 11:10 AM

If you have Blender (www.blender.nl) you can create a lattice or plane in Bryce and export to a .DXF file. Import into Blender and then sub-divide the vertices and add your noise and whatever else you want to do to your wave. Then export to a .DXF file again and then import into Bryce. That's just the mesh part... To recreate that photo is gonna be a ton o' work :) unless you have 3D Studio Max in which there are tutorials on the .net to recreate waves like in the movie Perfect Storm.


esp ( ) posted Mon, 04 February 2002 at 3:59 PM

I dont suppose you got a url for that 3d max tute have you ? Thanks if you have , and if not thanks anyway :o) [E.S.P]


howdydooo ( ) posted Mon, 04 February 2002 at 4:31 PM

http://boriz.stormloader.com/perfect_strorm.html


Man O' War ( ) posted Tue, 05 February 2002 at 5:03 AM

I may be wrong, but I think this is a modeled wave due to: 1. the water surface texture rising to the crest which looks like old skin and 2. the irregular surface and protrusion(s) on the right. The form could well be modeled in another application (although I don't think it is impossible in Bryce) and as to the transparency people here and in the Poser forum are pulling off very similar transparency edged surfaces in hair. These same techniques are doable in Bryce with transparency maps. Now if we can get it to move:) manowar


the3dwizard ( ) posted Tue, 05 February 2002 at 8:55 AM

Attached Link: http://www.planet-3d.com/cgi-bin/sengine/search.cgi?query=waves

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I have some tutorials by others at the url listed. I created this pic with lonewolf's tutorial. You could easily use magnets as Alley suggest to make the waves fall over. Thanks Alley hadn't thought of that one.


howdydooo ( ) posted Tue, 05 February 2002 at 9:40 AM

You can do an internet search for 3d & "3D studio max" & "Perfect Storm" to get that tutorial for creating the wave - I gave it yesterday but it doesn't seem to be all there, when I did the search to find it there were other tutorials as well that came up in the search, - just FYI. Plus you people keep talking 'magnets' assuming that people have Poser ---


LadyTieryn ( ) posted Wed, 06 February 2002 at 6:55 PM

Attached Link: http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52015187/Misc/cheers.html

I found a site were the artist created a wave like that using bryce I think. The link is the image I am talking about. Her main site is http://fly.to/mirre She has some very lovely art.


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