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Subject: Photoshop and Deep Paint


Tomsde ( ) posted Tue, 05 March 2002 at 7:00 PM · edited Wed, 13 November 2024 at 3:17 AM

Hi Guys,

I was wondering if anyone out there is using the Deep Paint by Right Hemisphere plugin for Photoshop. If so how do they like it. I have a great deal for about $100 off of it through an offer in the Photoshop 6.0 for Idiots book. I was wondering how the program compares to Procreate Painter, and if it is easier to learn and use. I would like to have Deep Paint 3D and Texture Weapons, but they are beyond my reach right now. I also have an upgrade offer for Painter 7 that came with my Grapphire Tablet that's comparably priced. I can afford one, but not both of these programs.

Any feedback would be appreciated. I'm looking for a tool to make texture maps for 3D models or to be able to paint realistic painting strokes over renderings of 3D scenes to be more artistic.

Thanks.


Slynky ( ) posted Tue, 05 March 2002 at 7:57 PM

Well, I've never used Painter 7, but I have used painter classic (graphire as well), and I must say, that it has beeen nothing but a pain in the ass to me. I don't use deep paint extensively, and I haven't ever posted or finished anything I've started with it, but I much prefer it over Painter. It's also a standalone program, which is awfully convienient if someone doesn't wanna shell for photoshop just for this software. As for Deep Paint 3D, never tried it, so i dunno. as far as I know, Deep Paint itself doesn't paint directly onto models, but Deep Paint 3D does. If yer looking for texturing software, I suggest looking into Deep Paint 3D. I know Syyd uses it (or at least she used to...?), and I know Zbrush does it as well. Of course , the next person might heartily prove me wrong. Mr. Mod??


desy ( ) posted Tue, 05 March 2002 at 10:11 PM

I have to agree, Painter is a pain and has so many flaws that I wouldnt pay money for it again. I have tried the demos on both Zbrush and Deep Paint 3D and I really liked the way both of them work. Sadly I am not independently wealthy and can not afford those two programs. I would definitely reccomend you download the demo versions of both Deep Paint and ZBrush and give them a try. They work fully as far as I could tell, I just wish the 30 day trial was a little longer.


kruzr ( ) posted Wed, 06 March 2002 at 12:20 AM

'Evening Tomsde . . . I have & use, Photoshop 5.5 / Painter 6.1 / Deep Paint & also ZBrush. Painter is somewhat more powerful than Deep Paint, but with a price - it's loaded with bugs or maybe I should call them unusual occurrences. I do know that Painter is an extremely difficult program to learn, although I have seen some very nice work created with Painter. I've had Painter 6 since it came out & Painter 5 before that, but to this day, I still don't know much about it, due to the fact that I find it a lot of trouble to try to work with. I also find it very un-intuitive. I have used Deep Paint since it was released, & I find it a lot more user friendly. It seems to me that I can create images quicker & easier than Painter, but, there are some things that Painter can do, that Deep Paint can't. So it's kind of a trade-off. I have also used ZBrush for about a year now, & it is a very powerful program, but, it's in a different category than either of the other two. It's a 3D modeling / 2D painting / & painting (real time) onto 3D models. Everything you do in ZBrush, is real time, so you don't have to wait for any rendering or such. You can also import DXF & OBJ objects created in other programs, & create textures for them, then export the objects & textures back to the program they originally came from. You can edit imported objects in ZBrush. You can paint in 2D, with colors & or textures in ZBrush. There's very little you can't do in ZBrush. But, again there's a steep learning curve. If you give yourself the time it takes to learn ZBrush, you'll have one of the most powerful programs out there, for the money. That's my opinion anyway. As far as the DEMO goes, you get 30 days to use it, then if you want more time to make up your mind, all you have to do is, e-mail Pixologic to get another temporary serial number & your good for another 30 days. Some have repeated this process a number of times, before purchasing the full program. One more thing, the tech help is in my opinion, the best out there, & the users on their forum ( ZBrushCentral ) are a very nice group of friendly people, who if you ask a question, someone will give a reply ASAP. I guess that's about all the information I can give at this time, I hope it will help you in your decision. You could always post a message or question about what your thinking about at ZbrushCentral & see what answers you get there? Either way, I hope you enjoy whichever program you end up buying. Have a good one . . . Mark.


Rork1973 ( ) posted Wed, 06 March 2002 at 7:56 AM

I tried it, but never really liked it. Most stuff is much to much a sort of'Bob Ross' artistic quality, if you get the idea. Like most plugins, they all give you a final result and are hardly ever usefull and a stepping stone to something you couldn't do before. (in other words, all results often look a like and are easily recognizable). Zbrush however is a kickass progg! =)


Tomsde ( ) posted Wed, 06 March 2002 at 9:06 AM

I downloaded the Zbrush Demo and it boggled my mind, but I haven't worked through all the product tour modules yet. It seems to be an excellent texturing program and being able to paint on the model itself is a real winning quality. The think what I liked about the Deep Paint Demo is that it seemed to have less of a learning curve than either Painter or ZBrush; but I'm not sure that it will do everything I want. My problem is that I can get a really good buy on either Painter or Deep Paint for Photoshop, but not as good a one on ZBrush. Regardless of which program I get they will take a while to master I suppose. If I had $300 to spend I wouldn't hestitate to buy ZBrush right now. I still have a vague hope that I will be able to win a copy of ZBrush on Daz3D's new contest. . . If I don't win it, I will probably buy it as soon as I can afford it.


Marque ( ) posted Sat, 09 March 2002 at 3:26 PM

I have Deep Paint and Deep Paint 3D. To paint directly on the model I believe you need Texture Weapons, which I also have. Since they are all installed I can't remember is you can paint on the model without the texture weapons. I like Deep Paint. The company is very supportive, called me from Down Under to get my s.n. straightened out. I also just bit the bullet and got the BodyPaint program for C4D so I am leaning that now, since I will be doing more C4D than Lightwave. The thing I like about Deep Paint is I can pull in my own textures and paint with them....or other textures. So if you have say..a chainmail texture you can use it to paint on say Vickies catsuit and not get the smearing that you get if you just paint on the template. Hope this helps. Marque


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