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Subject: What would you have in YOUR scifi movie?
Sci-Fi? Hmmm. Well, I'd make a mixture of Horror and Industrial. Like, say, Mad Max meets Resident Evil or something like that. Something like Fallout, but with buncha zombies. And a 17 year old girl. You see, her parents were killed by this band of cyber punks and she's all alone, running from them, when she stumbles into this HUGE (and I do mean HUGE!) abandoned factory/warehouse. That's her only hideout. Inside, she finds rotting bodies and pieces of partially eaten members. She's freaking out. Cyber punks outside and rotting corpses inside. What can she do? WHAT CAN SHE DO? So she's running around, and she stumbles upon a living corpse that grabs her shoulder. Well, it was not a living corpse, but Aaron, the movie's hunk (maybe someone like Leo DiCapprio or something). Aaron helps her out, with both of them trying to find a way out of the factory. But then the zombies hit. Inspiration enough for ya?
Damn, but we have a problem. Brad is too old for a 17 year old girl. So we gonna change that 17 year old girl for...hmmm...let's say...Shawna Loyer! Yeah! Huh? Who's Shawna Loyer, you ask? Well, she's the Angry Princess from "13 Ghosts". And to boot, instead of having her family killed by the cyber punks, she gets her boyfriend killed.
well, i like hard sci-fi la arthur clarke, paul anderson & greg bear (and stephen baxter and iain banks and gregory benford...). came to think of it, why are best hard-sci-fi authors in the bookshelfs from a-c? ok, kim stanley robinson is the exception, but not many others. hmmm, larry niven... anyway, if you are looking for sci-fi - horror - fantasy - space opera, check peter hamilton's "night's down" trilogy.
Heh, heh thanks gang. luke, someday I WILL do that cyberpunk zombie movie. "Cyberpunk Zombies from Outer Space"...oh, THAT rocks! I can't afford Brad, but I thought I saw his P4 texture in Free Stuff... ;) I've been alternating between a hard scifi space opera type movie and a fun, campy, sarcastic scifi action movie. Both have been in pre-production for a few months, and I'm now at the proverbial fork in the road, trying to decide which one to finish first. They both do contain horror elements, mostly dealing with nanotech experiments/discoveries, so that's good that it's not a "dead" idea (grin). One is called Scifi Babes, the other is Star Force 7 (I'll let you guess which one is campy...). I tend to read a lot of Greg Bear, Stephen King, and Stephen R. Donaldson, not to mention waaay too many old RPG sourcebooks... Thanks for the ideas and suggestions! aleks, I'll check out Night's Dawn and the others you mentioned.
Tech and Effects, ala The Matrix, only more so. Grit, ala Blade Runner Meets Mad Max, only grittier. I want to smell grease and solvents. Lots of Boy Muscle, ala (young) Stallone, with Brad Pitt's looks and Mel Gibson's acting. Lots more Girl Muscle, ala Linda Hamilton/Sigourney Weaver with Fairuza Balk's looks (who should have been Lara Croft). Lots of stuff blowing up. Aliens that really scare the piss out of you and aren't slow (the Cave Troll in LOTR was some kick-ass animation even if he did look like a dufus). A premise that keeps you awake at night for weeks, ala the Matrix. Sets actually designed by Giger, not merely inspired by him and weakly executed. Hmmmmm... I think that about does it. Oh, and decent writers: "I know Kung Fu." Jeeziz.
and i forgot brin, ballard, barnes, cherryh... hehe okay, herbert is not a-c but since you read bear, i guess you're familiar with "queen of angels" and "slant" - very fine read and kinda nanotech-sci-fi-thriller genre. never heard of joan vinge... maybe because i search only until "c" :) have to try it!
"a premise that keeps you awake at night..." Ok, assuming you know something about Christianity, and aren't easily offended: How about the book of Revelations, and the second coming of Christ - suppose God and the angels are an advanced human species returning to bring their experiment (us) home, and having to fight their own civil war with those who want the Earth for themselves (Satan and his legions...) in the process. This is an idea in a story I'm nearly finished with entitled "The Ark" - and it gets into a lot of stuff with biblical references too - i.e., it will only carry 144,000 passengers (Jehovah's Witnesses say that's the number of people that are going to heaven...) back to God's Realm. (Heaven, if you will) I'm not ready to make that as a movie yet, but I'd love to sell the screenplay to someone else.
Im making a sci fi animated short film
its going to have an H.R. Gieger ancient technology look
hard science and a strong central characters inteligent struggle against
a totalitarian theocratic regime( ala Hank Rearden, Ayn rands book "atlas shrugged")
with a drab gray motiffed orwellianized oppressed general populace
interstellar travel to at least one alien culture
(where you see the exotic large breasted babes)
some explosions /effects but not gratuitous.
a character driven story
with a not so happy ending.
Silver, that's almost pure Gnosticism. It's a paradigm that also inspired The Matrix: "What if it's all an experiment or a joke and God isn't really a God after all." Properly looked into, Gnostic ideas can really shake you up. I know, I'm a Gnostic. There's a whole bunch of books in the Christian corpus that didn't make it into what we know as the Bible but were written at the same time and have very different interpretations of what it's all about (some of the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi Library are the most well known). They were politically suppressed by those who stood to gain from the spirtual enslavement, rather than liberation, of the masses. Typical church politics.
Me? Well I would have something that is original and well acted and written that just happens to be sci-fi .. Too many times there is just sci-fi to be sci-fi with a lame story etc. Yes Giger is cool at times but that is style over substance. So are many of the others things that people mentioned. Just my two cents.
A meteor hits and releases magic alien spores that turn into superintelligent bulletproof mutant armadillos who burrow up into the butts of people while they poop and take control of their minds, then make them slave away in the meteor crater mining alien minerals that'll be used to construct a powerful transmitter that will summon the ubercosmic Space Armadillo Armada who will come with a giant ion cannon that causes the sun to explode and only Will Smith can save us. That'd really be cool.
ALL the above ideas are lame, and have been done to death. Legume's synopsis is slightly less lame (saved by the humor), but is still cliche-riddled. I do NOT want to see big-boobs-on-a-babe-to-be-rescued-by-a-hunk-with-things-exploding-in-the-background. You will not get my money or warm seat in a theatre (my time is also worth something). A good movie starts with a script worth reading. If you think of a star and work backwards to how you can use him or her, you are indeed ass-backwards in your approach. Write the story first, and THEN think of who can best and most believably fill out the roles you have described. I usually start with an environment (alien or earth-normal or fantasy) and a map. Add the cultures and economic forces. At this point the problems emerge... and lead towards resolution. Problems and resolution are the core to a story. But if you know who your characters are, you'll know why they care enough to confront the problem, and why the audience will care also. If the audience doesn't care, you've lost it all. I will not tell you how many awful movies I've sat through rooting for the villains. When the dinosaurs are more intelligent than the people, you've got problems no amount of money can hide. Carolly
Howbout a remake of all Dirty Harry Movies in Space "sci fi". Have Clint E. say "The magnum 44 phaser, the most powerful hand phaser in the universe" or "Ya feelin lucky cyberpunk, do ya?" or "Go ahead, make my er..n/m we don't have days in space".... JV
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Scott, OK, how about this scenario: we know that lots of big dinosaurs have been dug out of the rocks in Montana, South Dakota, Wyoming, and I'm pretty sure there's a site in northern California or Oregon (I've passed it while driving to conventions, but forget how far north it is). Anyway, these sites are almost always isolated. We also know that the government is frantically looking for places to bury 50 year's worth of nuclear waste, and that it wants isolated sites so that the stuff won't be disturbed. What if our government (conspiracies are always popular and the higher-leveled ones especially so) had already been secretely burying radioactive waste in a dinosaur burial ground (you know one of those places with mass deaths), but didn't know about the bones resting under the barrels. We'll need a catalyst. Meteor impact is good (nice fireworks for the guys who like to see explosions), but an earthquake will do if this is low-budget (just jiggle the camera a lot). Next thing we know, articulated dinosaur skeletons are terrorizing small hamlets. They can be radioactive (glowing green?), but I'd recommend eye sockets as dead and black as a shark's. So we have the readily identifiable environment: rural Americana with small ranches and the occasional town with practical, hard-working folks, and we have the problem: something unnatural is threatening their families and nobody believes them. And when it does become obvious to the outside world, their way-of-life will be threatened, too. If we set this in Montana or Idaho, the people can be survivalists up against a bigger challenge than they anticipated when they bought ammunition for their shotguns. The solution? That will be left as an exercise for the reader. Hint: blowing the monsters to smithereens isn't a good idea. Carolly
Hi, I like my sci-fi "hard" (Greg Bear being my fave author) but if I'm watching a film, I want eye candy, I want explosions, cinematic vistas, cool looking guns & aliens, spaceships, and babes! Lots and lots of babes... :) "5th element" was good, so was "independance day" (though a bit lacking on the babe front :) AI was passable, but I can't help feeling that the short story would have been better. later jb
Hiram, There isn't enough money on this planet to persuade me to sit through another JP... or ANYthing else by Crichton. :p His first dinosaur movie was so bad that I didn't see the others. I was the one in the theatre screaming "Get her! Get her! Eat her!" etc. when the humans were doing particularly stupid things (like wandering around alone), but then I always cheer for the intelligent side. Anyway, we'd also need some motivation for the skeletal dinosaurs. Hunger probably wouldn't be logical. Hunting for the remains of Sue and the rest of their family would let the film-makers trash a city or two as the dinos seek out the museums... but searching for lost kin has been done to death. Maybe the radioactivity is eating away their bones from the inside and they are suffering incredible pain? Carolly
Hiram, that's not bad, not bad at all. It is almost pathetic: they simply want to be whole again, and the desire for life is one of the strongest urges out there. The audience can identify with that, and we can earn their sympathies by starting small and working up: an annoying dog, a flock of sheep, a pickup full of drunken cowboys leaving one of those roadside bars, then the farmhouse with the determined woman guarding her family to no avail. At some point we'll cross the line and the audience will be forced to decide if all life is valuable, or only ours. The art will be more difficult. Just animating skeletons is easy, and they'd be good for the entire movie. If we need partially fleshed skeletons, too, it would add to the budget. The other problem is the gruesomeness factor: the folks doing The Mummy managed to keep much of the ickiness off-screen and preserved their family-friendly rating. We'd have to ensure that teenagers everywhere would have access to this flick. Just thought of something else! We could have an ancient indian shaman seeing a vision of this, with an earnest young person from the Smithsonian taking it all down as "one of the old fairytales used to make children behave and stay close to camp" as part of the prologue. The interpreter (great-grandkid?) would be futilely trying to get the researcher to understand that it isn't an old story, it is a new story, and it hasn't happened yet... when the catalyst happens, and there is a glow in the northern(?) skies. Having a chronicler on hand is an old invention, but very useful to us storytellers. BTW, my handle elsewhere is Shahrazad... now you know why. :) Carolly
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There was an incredibly cheesy x-rated movie back in the 80s called "Bimbo Cheerleaders From Outer Space". The plot: The "Millenium Bimbo" (shades of Vicki!) goes to a planet where there's only one man left, and the all-female crew has to cure the one male of his homosexuality. In between, there are naked pillow fights, lesbian group gropes, and an encounter with a large hairy alien called a "Nookie"...which was just some naked guy in a werewolf mask. The sets were incredible...all the scenes inside the "ship" were just paper backdrops with windows and doors drawn on with a marker. At one point, the Captain uses a pair of scissors to open a door. Classic.
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If you could choose exactly the elements and story you wanted for a scifi movie, what would you want to see? Hard Scifi (technical, brainy) Action Scifi (shoot 'em up, alien invasion, etc.), Horror Scifi (Alien, etc.), other? What kind of characters? Male, female, alien, etc.? Military, scientist, civilian? Just brainstorming some ideas and could use some inspiration!