Like the red AND the black-- but who's the good guy? OR are they both bad? Seriously very very cool. Love the bumpmap! I never bought a better bargain than PWFW subscription. Not nowhere, not nohow. Thank you yet again, Emily

Queri...NO bumpmap...LOL! Haven't you noticed lately how I never include one? I like to work on that effect on the texture itself and keep rendering time to minimum! hehe! Rena

All this Michael stuff of late! I'm not complaining, not me, but are you sure the real Rena and Steve haven't been, like, abducted by aliens or something? :) It's a beautiful piece of work, guys -- really like the texture work on this one... but then, Rena, your textures always have such a cool, non-North-American look to them that make them really stand out nicely.

That's it. I'm getting a Poserworld subscription ASAP. Keep up the excellent work!

I just hope I can download it before my subscription is up. Marque

This is nice. Just wondering is there a texture version of the black without the buckles? (I suppose if not it wouldn't be too hard to edit the texture) p.s. That red leather looks fablous!

VirtualSite: Doesn't it worry you that the pod people seem so fond of Mike? (Come to think of it, there hasn't been a Backstage Blooper for a while...sorry some one at the door)

That-is-great-RenaPD. When-is-Mike's-next-garment-apeearing?

Any day sooon RHaseltine! :o) Rena

::::is shivering with ant...tic....I....pat........................ion::: Ok enough Rocky horror references from me now

Steve, just a technical question. I notice that these, like any other model I've seen of greatcoats or the like, conforms too well. Is it possible to put in morphs that will make it hang a little more naturally when it's in positions like these? Or, as I fear, is that asking too much of the technology we have for the moment?

RH: Doesn't it worry you that the pod people seem so fond of Mike? Not half so much as he seems fond of those anal probes.....

isn't that what magnets are for in Poser? VL mischievous grin

its catch 22 with these VirtualSite ;o) if you make it closed you have to extend the hip and have the lumpy hip problem :o) but doing it like this as you say it conforms to well in anything but standing poses, morphs could be added but i can make 6 coats quicker than doing a few morphs they take so long LOL.......BUT what we could try is a long one with just a hip then you could make lots of morphs....thanks you just switched a light bulb on in my brain LOL...i'll try this out and let you know ;o).....Steve