Well folks. Dedicated Digital has given us some nice figures. And as we all know they need some tweaking of the JP's to make them bend properly. Not much to ask for such good freebies. But the Orangutan was a complete mess. The head won't bend because they've got lines in the cr2 splattered all over the place inside the wrong bracketts. So I made a new PHI file for it and am in the process of setting up the JP's wich shouldn't take too long to do. My question is. Can I give this away somehow? Can I give out the .Cr2 file? Lots of people won't be able to rebuild it and it would be a shame to not be able to give it out. ScottA iamsba@aol.com

It would probably be best to ask them directly but I dont know ...

Scott, I would ask to be safe, but as you already know .cr2's do nothing more than reference the .obj. So in essence, what ever you build is your own. You just can't give out the geometry (without permission)... People give away .cr2's all the time, it's one of the ways you can distribute morphs without giving away the original geometry. -Rob

I hope you can. I dled the orangutan (and am still sincerely hoping they or someone will do a gorilla) and will use it, I'm sure. BTW, I've noticed that they are planning a 'farm yard' CD but no date given. Anyone know about that? I still would like a sheep (domestic). Diane B

I think someone in the past has already given out a fixed version of the tiger so it must be ok since it's still up at their site, I think Pose Works.

Your right Kalypso, it was DD at PoseWorks who did the fixed version of the tiger...

Hello. Where is PoseWorks? No links to it listed and its not found on Lycos or AltaVista? Thanks! Eric

Here ya go Eric... http://poseworks.8m.com/

I have DD's animal kingdom. I'm fairly practiced with JP's, but DD's cr2's having missing parameters (no x/y/zrot). Sometimes I just have to make a new phi, as Scott did. I have fixed most without reconstructing the phi.

I wish someone would write a tutorial on how to do that... Take an exsisting model and improve the parameters... Or am I wrong, is there a tutorial on that?... I know Bushi had one for creating a model and making it posable but it's kinda over my head... His tutorials are for the advanced.. I'm just a lowly person with the brain the size of a orangutan.... =( ~Cindy

A tutorial would be great indeed, Just DL the orangutan would love to be able to use it. Maybe it could then teach me a few things LOL Shaun

Bushi's tute will get you going. I bugged him about DD's missing joint parameters (XY &/or Z Rot). He advised me to just remake the phi, which was exactly the problem I was having. He wrote that tute many moons, ago, in early (late actually) the Poser 3 Millenium. Things haven't changed in this respect. There's 9.5 pages dedicated to editing Joint Parameters in the Poser4 manual pages 278 to 287. Coop said just read that, play for a day, & you'll get the hang of it. Worked for me...

This is something that came up a while back and I wasn't paying attention - SOME of the modified files are freely distributable (per Zygote!), but at least one is not. Does anyone know/remember which files (CR2, OBJ, PHI, etc.) is which?

See. This is why I wanted to give it away. There's lots of folks who can't do this yet. I'll e-mail Bill at DD and hopefully he will get back to me soon. If he say's it's ok. I'll include the phi file so people can use it for a learning refrence. ScottA

That would be nice Thankyou Scott Sprout

CEBrown You are quite correct, there is one type of file which cannot be given away/traded/swapped unless it is one you have personally created. That is an OBJ file. CR2 files do not contain actual geometry - they just reference it. Paul

Can't we just cut & paste the JP's as text? Looking at the CR2, it looks like you could easily cut & paste just the joint parameters. Maybe someone like Anthony A or Mason could write utility to remove & replace the JP's w/o involving anything else. The JP's wouldn't really even belong to the original dude any more, IMO. So what if the name & xyz center of a limb coincides with his object? The other stuff is generic. That element of the cr2 had little, if anything at all to do with the originator of the geometry . Maybe we could even get a library of JPs going for different animals & people. FYI here's what the joint parameter looks like in the cr2 jointZ lThigh_jointz { name lThigh_jointz initValue 0 hidden 1 forceLimits 0 min -100000 max 100000 trackingScale 1 keys { static 0 k 0 0 } interpStyleLocked 0 angles 45 -45 -135 135 otherActor lThigh:1 matrixActor NULL center 0.067296 0.251407 -0.009911 flipped doBulge 0 jointMult 1 calcWeights }