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Subject: Tudor Costumes


makw ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 10:10 AM · edited Fri, 02 August 2024 at 2:46 PM

Anyone know of anywhere or anyone who produces Tudor period costumes for Poser? Thanks in advance.


Desdemmonna ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 10:25 AM

As far as I know...no. This was the first thing that I looked for when I first started with Poser. I'm a huge Tudor costuming enthusiast focusing on especially around 1550. http://poserfashion.net/ has some wonderful period clothing that can be made into relatively period middle/lower class Tudor by careful texturing. No french hoods,hanging sleeves or codpieces here I'm afraid though. Uthena dress in freestuff and the medieval dress at Poserstyle can also be textured to looks somewhat like the gowns of the Tudor era. PhilC's Romantix set has some skirts, bodices, etc that also look similiar to what Renfaire people wear. Reference sites with very detailed pictures if anyone is curious: http://www.tudorhistory.org/ http://www.dnaco.net/~aleed/corsets/general.html Elizabethan Costuming Page, an amazing online Renaissance site with listings, utilities, etc. Hope this helped at least some. Cheers, -Des


bigdog1 ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 11:40 AM

IIRC there's some in the members area of Poserworld that are really incredibly good.


Desdemmonna ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 11:48 AM

Just did a quick sweep through the DAZ store...there are tons of resonably Tudor era clothing there as well. Michael/P4 period suits, Anton's Adventurers, Swashbuckler Character pack for Victoria (really nice doublet that can probably be resized for michael/p4 man with little problem) Millenium Woman and P4 female Period Gown. http://iso.power.ne.jp/ Isop's Alice outfit has a pair of bloomers, although not very historically accurate, most reinactment ladies chose to wear them :) There is a doublet in freebies for the P4 male of I'm not mistaken as well. Stockings can be found at both http://isweb40.infoseek.co.jp/art/bat_lab/ Bat Labs and http://209.92.41.204/Poser/index.html Ghastly Software...there are also some colonial items for p4 man that can be used as Tudor, knee breaches and such.


makw ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 1:39 PM

Thanks for all your detailed help. We've looked at DAZ's stuff and Poser World and just about every other site out there. Although we certainly can use some of their costumes after adaption, I was hoping to cut down on this time if there was stuff available. We're looking for quite a specific time period, 1575 to be exact, and all aritocratic, so I'm sure we'll end up having to make our own. My collegue has just about every reference book available on period costume, so we're ok on that front. I'll have a look at all your excellent and numerous suggestions though. Thanks again!


Desdemmonna ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 2:17 PM

Your welcome :) Later Tudor? http://cresswells.com/graphics/ Chimera has a wonderful early Elizabethan lady on their CD and a ruff and shoes for her in freestuff. There's a ruff for Mike jester that would work quite nicely as well in freestuff. I have WAY too many bookmarks ;p


Lyrra ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 2:18 PM

Tudor's a bit out my range but PhilC's Vickie Romantix (skirts and tops) can be used for everything but the upper class - and you can use some of it any way for undergarments and such (if you need to show them). The hats and gloves might be useful. BTW someone made a version of Koz's Alice hair with a snood. SHould be in freestuff. But a full catastrophe Tudor outfit - no I haven't seen one. The closest would be RenapD's Queen Elizabeth - and that (sorry Rena) didn't pass my inspection for bodyshape. (definately not corseted properly) If you'd rather buy than make, why don't you go ask PhilC? He's a reasonable dude. You never know :) Lyrra



PhilC ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 2:36 PM

If you still find that you need something specific then please contact me. Its possible that I may be able to accommodate.

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leather-guy ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 4:21 PM

I'm always eager to get Tudor-appropriate garb as well.


Poppi ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 9:08 PM

Could you please post an example of what you think is "tudor" period clothing. also, do you want for vicki, or mike?


leather-guy ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 9:43 PM

Attached Link: http://www.costumes.org/pages/16thlinks.htm

http://www.sova.net/trish/elizabethan/classstrata.html http://www.costumes.org/pages/16thlinks.htm Here's a couple of good links to Tudor clothing Ref Sites.


Lyrra ( ) posted Tue, 28 May 2002 at 10:23 PM

IF a modeler were to make Upperclass lady's garb (which is what seems to be missing) , I'd say they might want to consider doing it in a modular fashion - similar to how the gowns were made. So that there are for example, three separate skirt styles, chemise options, removable partlet, a bodice with a morphing neckline, or multiple bodices, and several sleeve styles. The props could include wrist ruffs, massive necklaces, neck ruff, french hoods, tudor hat, 'juliet cap', gloves, flea-fur, fan, book of hours, and chatelaine. The modeler would probably have to supply a 'corset' morph as the body shape is VERY important to the style. Piece swapping might be useful, but I understand it causes problems with Tailor and MATs. The way PhilC made the Vicki romantix would be perfect, with the additional of the sleeves as separate clothing items. I just talked to my sister, the professional Elizabethan costumer. Wow. I much prefer Itlaian Renn. Just the thought of elizabethan undergarments make me feel uncomfortable! Hope that gives a modeler cough Philc cough food for thought :) Lyrra



leather-guy ( ) posted Wed, 29 May 2002 at 12:37 AM

On the male side, For nobles and royalty I'd like to see something along the likes of a Peascod Doublet with interchangeable sleeves and laced pecadils, Pansied slops with "venetian" breeks and ornate codpiece, trunk hose, 3/4 circle off-the shoulder shortcloak, high-crowned velveted hat, perhaps a coatharderie with a shoulder-chain of office. True Slash-and-pouf styling would be incredibly difficult to model, but a faux strap-work texture wouldn't be difficult to apply with a bump map. Child-sized versions of both mens and ladies garb would be great as well. The Tudors considered children to be adults-in-training, so Tudor children were always clothed in exact miniatures of their parents class's clothing (the romantic concept of "Childhood" as a special protected carefree period was a Victorian invention, as exemplified by the invention of special clothing for children like knickerbockers and pinafores). These have been on my Poser wish-list from Poser 1. Message671414.jpg


makw ( ) posted Wed, 29 May 2002 at 2:51 AM

I'm glad I asked about Tudor costumes as it seems I'm not the only one. My colleague has done a couple of tests himself so we may just put them out there for sale ourselves. We're going to need quite a number so I think you just might be hearing from us PhilC. As I said, it's 1575 we're after and Elizabeth's visit to the Earl of Liecester at Kenilworth Castle to be precise. Nice thing is that there's plenty of reference material. Ah well, back to work.


hauksdottir ( ) posted Wed, 29 May 2002 at 8:07 PM

"Kenilworth" would be a great name for the suite of clothing. Since I'm texturing Phil's Romantics, I can highly recommend the way he lays out garments. We would need a proper corset and morph to flatten and squish those breasts. Elizabeth had rather a long, boyish figure, which was emphasized by her clothing and copied by the Court. There is a book which has her complete(?) wardrobe, but I recall it being priced at a couple hundred dollars, and I haven't yet required it. Anyway, if we get a suite of male and female clothing which is accurate in construction for this period, there will be a bunch of us not only salivating into the keyboard, but whipping out our credit cards. Carolly


leather-guy ( ) posted Thu, 30 May 2002 at 12:23 AM

For anyone interested, here's a few reasonably priced reference books on clothing of the period in my collection; Tudor Costume & Fashion by Norris (softcover, Dover press) Vol 2 of Patterns of Fashion; 156--1620 English Renaissance by Janet Arnold (papermac/Drama Book) Tailor's Pattern Book; 1589 (softcover, Costume & Fashion Press) And of course the "Olde Standarde" ref; Elizabethan Costuming for the years 1550-1580 by Winter & Savoy (Softcover, An Other Times Publications) I have a copy of "The Queen's Closet" (I think that's the title) which is an inventory of Elizabeth's wardrobe, but it's loaned out, and I don't recall the author or exact title (Don't think I paid more than $125.00 for it at a museum giftshop in London. Of these I consider Patterns of fashions the best source, as it includes photos of construction details of surviving Elizabethan clothing from museums and private collections as well as portraits of the original owners wearing them (where possible).


PhilC ( ) posted Thu, 30 May 2002 at 3:32 AM

If someone could help me put together a set of pictures/sketches of a Tudor wardrobe that would be a great help. I've looked through the links and there is great reference material but I'm having difficulty knowing what would be the most useful items. I like the idea of the mix and match approach similar to the Romantix set. I assume they should be for Mike and Vicki?

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leather-guy ( ) posted Thu, 30 May 2002 at 4:24 AM

Phil - here's several more links to relevant pages with illustrations of the proper period; Tudor/Elizabethan/English Renaissance was roughly late 1500's (prior to 1557 or so was Early Tudor when Queen Elizabeth's father, Henry the Eigth was on the throne). If you want, I can scan a few of mu sketches and EMail them to you, but I'm on the road and wouldn't be able to until the weekend, at the earliest. http://www.furman.edu/~kgossman/history/elizab/images.htm#doublet http://www.wyrdrune.com/index.html?Costume/index.html~main http://www.speedsite.com/~videoc/Elizabethan/male.html http://www.varmouries.com/cloth/ccloth06.html http://www2.oneonta.edu/~angellkg/renaissa.html http://www2.oneonta.edu/~angellkg/elizabet.html http://www.maidenfaire.com/vitem-male_garb1.htm http://www.lepg.org/men.htm http://www.sewingcentral.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=pp58.html&cart_id=7449289.25256 http://elisabat.netgod.net/corset2.html http://www.jlean.theshoppe.com/renaissancemens.html http://citd.scar.utoronto.ca/VPAB04/projects/Joy_Lam/Untitled-15.htm http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/vrrystlishgrrl/adam/16th.html http://www.schoolsliaison.org.uk/astonhall/changingtimes/themes/clothes/tclothes.htm Jerry B leather-guy


makw ( ) posted Thu, 30 May 2002 at 5:25 AM

Wow, I'm impressed. PilC, we can supply you with plenty of reference material, not only of ER I herself but of pictures of the event itself (helps living in England and only few miles from Kenilworth). I'll get my expert colleague phurst1 on the case. makw


PhilC ( ) posted Thu, 30 May 2002 at 5:53 AM

Thanks folks :)
What I really need is to compress the info down into a workable package. By the way I will be in England next week for two weeks.

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makw ( ) posted Thu, 30 May 2002 at 6:33 AM

Perfect timing! Let me know your plans and we can try and get together.


hauksdottir ( ) posted Thu, 30 May 2002 at 7:38 PM

Oh, Frabjous! Real period clothing at last!!! Carolly the Anticipatory


makw ( ) posted Fri, 31 May 2002 at 3:51 PM

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Here's an example of the image quality we're after. The costume's totally wrong and there was no way of flattening her breasts, but it gives you an idea. Done with Vicki and Cinema 4D.


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