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Subject: OBJ'S without CR'S

arrow1 opened this issue on Jun 08, 2002 · 10 posts
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arrow1 ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 3:36 AM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 1:35 PM

Does anyone know where to put OBJ'S when there is no CR'S. Normally with the help of a text editor I can get a clue for the geometry name with CR'S,but when there isn't any how do you determine what the folder name is and where it goes? Arrow1

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.

cooler ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 3:57 AM

obj files that have no related poser file (cr2, pp2, etc) can go anywhere, since they are imported directly into poser rather than from one of the libraries for simple obj meshes I have a folder in my poser root directory cleverly named 'objects' with appropriate sub folders for furniture,weapons, etc etc :-)

Jaager ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 5:44 AM

This sort of OBJ means nothing to Poser until you either Import it, or hack a Library file to call for it. If you are going to use the files for external calls, Geometries is the section that Poser itself uses, but as long as you can find them, where does not matter. If you are going to Import and then save as a Prop with an embedded geometry, you do not need to keep the obj file anywhere but in backup after you do the Import. The advantage of storing the obj in Geometries, Importing (no boxes checked), saving, and then converting the Library file to external call - the Library file is smaller and if you wish to morph it, you can pull the obj file into your modeler straight from Geometries - the morphs are not likely to have problems from artifacts ( Export from Poser to a modeler can cause problems if you are not careful.)

arrow1 ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2002 at 6:55 PM

Many thanks to all that replied.I have a better understanding of OBJ'S now. Cheers arrow1

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.

Jaager ( ) posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 4:21 AM

Loose OBJ files can also be morphs. Those can go anywhere. Back when I used Win98 and Poser was on the same drive with Win, I kept my morphs in My Documents, becuase the bloodly program defaulted to there when I applied a morph. It meant fewer clicks. Once you have applied a morph, you can store the OBJ on a CDR or something. It has done its job.

arrow1 ( ) posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 4:50 PM

Thanks for the tip. I am still having trouble would you believe with a CR with an OBJ. "The coonskin cap". In the text editor it says to put it under Little_Dragon.I have tried with this name and with different spellings and cases.It won't work.I wish people when they post things would say what to put the OBJ in! I finished up deleting it as my Poser kept freezing when I tried to apply the coonskin cap.Thanks everyone for your help.

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.

Jaager ( ) posted Sun, 09 June 2002 at 5:32 PM

You have already taken a step that seems to freak out most:
you opened the CR2 in an editor.

Now, just do it the other way.
Organize your Geometries how you want with new stuff.
Make a folder that you will use a lot.
Clothing or Items or some general name that you like.
Put the OBJ file there. say "Cloth props"

Open the PP2 in the TE and go to the line

objFileGeom 00 :Runtime:Geometries:Little_Dragon:coonskincap.obj

and change it to

objFileGeom 00 :Runtime:Geometries:Cloth props:coonskincap.obj

Now both you and the Library file know where the OBJ is and you don't have a Geometries folder with a million folders - one for every author - you can consolidate.

If it is a CR2
there will be two calls, not one as in the PP2

One at the beginning:

figureResFile :Runtime:Geometries:Little_Dragon:coonskincap.obj

and a second one after the first (actors) section

Change both of them to

figureResFile :Runtime:Geometries:Cloth props:coonskincap.obj

If you mess up the first, Poser freezes or says you are out of memory - restart Poser.

If you mess you the second only, it may just give you a different mesh.

The thing is, if you have a ridiculous looking Geometries folder you can now use your own system.
I generally leave DAZ stuff as it comes, they tend to nest folders and use the same folders a lot anyway.
Almost everything else, I put the OBJ where I want it and TE the Library file.
I do not bother with the ego trip of authors who want to put a folder with their name in my Geometries folder.

arrow1 ( ) posted Mon, 10 June 2002 at 1:54 AM

Thanks for your suggestion Jaager.I am not 100 percent sure what you mean, however I have printed it out ,and if I can find the coonskin cap download site again I will try again with what I think is your suggestion. Cheers arrow1

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.

Jaager ( ) posted Mon, 10 June 2002 at 5:22 AM

I should probably just state what I mean. Rather than worrying about putting geometry files where the author of a Poser Library file says it should be, you can often get better organization if you put the geometry where you want it to be and edit the Library file so that it points to where you put it. The major barrier is being willing to open the file and edit it. The process is simple, but it must be precise.

c1rcle ( ) posted Mon, 10 June 2002 at 5:35 AM

Also remember a lot of cr2's mention the obj file twice and both need to be the same to avoid poser locking up on you. Rob

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