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Subject: Poser 4 under Classic environment of Mac OSX?


TheWingedOne ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 6:45 AM · edited Sun, 05 January 2025 at 4:23 AM

Hi there, did anyone found a workaround how to get Poser 4 (not Propack) to load under Classic environment of Mac OSX? It works with a brandnew installation, but as soon as I ad some new models liek the Millenium people, clothing and such Poser crashes. So I have to reboot my machine unde OS 9.2.2 which is quite annoying. Many thanks in advance for any clues, Phil


wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 7:05 AM

Poser is NOT Supported under "Classic" according to curious labs I know it sucks having to reboot into that outdated OS9 but until Poser5 arrives and lets us bury OS9 in the ashbin of history where it belongs, we are stuck using it for poser ;-/



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TheWingedOne ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 7:26 AM

Sorry to hear that! Uhohhhh, now Poser 5 is even more desperately awaited. Poser is the only app I'm still using under OS9 - except all the wonderfull converters by MartinC, but these run under Classic as well. Everything else runs perfectly under OSX. Can't wait to kick OS9 into the trashcan like you said. OSX rocks! I love this OS!!! Phil


ronknights ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 8:41 AM

So pardon my ignorance. I'm actually looking seriously at Macs, even though it would take a "financial miracle" to get the money for a Mac. Is this OsX actually a Unix operating system? Or some sort of hybrid. Is this a good operating system?


TheWingedOne ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 10:41 AM

Ron, OSX has a UNIX based kernel called Darwin. This means it has the same features like UNIX (e.g. stability, multi threading etc.) To be honest I'm not a programmer and English isn't my mother's tongue. Therefore it's quite difficult to explain. You better check Apple's OSX pages for further details. I love OSX. It's been the most stable operating system I ever worked with - beside UNIX itself. I work with PCs in my job and this is really a pain in the a**. Please excuse my rude wording, but I couldn't say it better. OSX is a wonderful OS to work with...stable, nice GUI and very handy. If you're in the US I'd suggest to visit a Apple store near you and give it a try. You'll love it. The only thing I'm still missing is Poser for OSX. Besides that I'm quite happy with my Mac :o))) You won't regret switching from PC to Mac. Promise! Phil


dan whiteside ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 11:47 AM

Guess y'all saw this: "details about a [P5] Macintosh version will be announced later this summer." Has CL ever actually said that there will be an OSX version of Poser 5?


c1rcle ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 11:50 AM

on their website it does say that an OSX version will be announced, but doesn't say when. Rob


wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 12:34 PM

Poser5 Will be OSX native trust me



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MarianneR ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 1:04 PM

I'm running Poser 4 (not Propack) under Classic mode of OSX 10.1.5 and it works just fine, with Millennium people also. I have just noted two small problems: doubleclicking a pz3-file won't load it into Poser, and if I quit Poser and want to start it again I have to force quit Classic mode first. My machine has rather much RAM: 768 MB.


terminusnord ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 4:16 PM

Ditto for me, I'm running my fully-loaded poser 4.0.3 under 10.1.5. It's slower than watching a flood of molasses overtake a pack of crippled sloths, but it runs! -Adam


terminusnord ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 4:22 PM

I expect Poser 5 to be much, much faster on the macs. Not only will it go OS X native, but it will be using the G4 altivec processor. Lack of G4 support is what is really holding Poser 4 back, relative to performance on windows PCs.


ronknights ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 9:29 PM

TheWingedOne, you surely speak English very well, including the comments about "a pain in the ass," grin. I spent a couple days in the Macintosh forum and frankly just didn't get a lot of info. So I'm back to sticking with what I know works. At least if I got a new PC I wouldn't need to give up most of my software and everything I know.


terminusnord ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 9:48 PM

That's very true Ron, and it's the reason that stories of PC-to-Mac converts are so rare. The computer manufacturers want to sell you on the power of the OS, the stability of the hardware, etc.. but in reality, it's not as much about what system is better as it is about what system the user already knows and has bought tons of software for. Cost is another issue. Macs used to break the bank and shred the pocket book, this was true. Unfortunately, even as they have come in line with the rest of the market, people still have this seed in their mind that tells them they are more expensive than PCs. The MHz discrepancy feeds this rumor too--people try to compare Pentium to PowerPC Mhz-for-Mhz, which is apples to oranges. CPU clockspeed tells you nothing about how different architecture systems compare in performance. Yet, people see a 2.2 GHz PC for the same price as an 800Mhz Mac, and they think the PC is a better deal (sigh), not realizing they're pretty comparable and each has their strong points. Also, people considering buying a Mac really need to compare the Macs against quality PC Hardware. I'm not talking about the ATX case and no-name motherboards you can get a computer "show", I'm talking about name brand PCs with system stability that is in line with the quality of apple hardware. Manufacturers like Dell and IBM, for example. Compare a Mac to a Dell with similar power and options, and the prices are neck and neck (just remember don't judge "power" by CPU Mhz! Look at application-level benchmarks!!!! :-) -Adam


Quoll ( ) posted Tue, 23 July 2002 at 11:36 PM

I have learned some things about using Poser 4 and Poser Pro Pack in classic mode under OSX. It works, and there are a few gotcha's that you can get around for the most part. And its worth figuring out if you want to use Poser on a Mac since we probably wont see a Mac version of Poser 5 this year, if at all. Here is what I know: Your mileage may very from point to point, but this is pretty hard and fast stuff for most system configurations. Poser runs under classic mode with OSX versions 10.1.1 but will break and not run under all version between 10.1.2 and 10.1.4. It starts working again under 10.1.5 So if you have not yet upgraded, do so. Poser will run ONCE under classic, then you will get errors. If you crash or quit poser you will have to start classic again for it to work again. Do not restart classic. You must shut it down and then start it again. Restarting usually persists the problem. Screen redraw will suck a@@. But data never seems to get corrupt so you are ok. The bummer poser interface takes over your whole screen so when in Poser classic you often cant find a way to get back to your dock. To get out and back to 10, go up to the application menu on the upper right, then click once on the icon to open the menu. Bring your mouse down to where the dock is and it will then pop up. Stupid, but it works every time. Assigning 800 MB or more of ram to Poser will cause it to not launch, even if you have more than enough ram in your system. 500 MB or less seems to work fine. DAZ installers usually work under OSX, but not always so be prepared to reinstall products natively if you need to. The poser renderer will run hideously slow under OSX so if you are in a hurry you should reboot into OS9 for intensive rendering. But who uses that rendering engine anyway? Which leads me to.... Poser Pro Pack Lightwave and C4D plug ins do not work with the OSX versions of Poser. But you can run those applications in classic as well and they work. I just export models as OBJ files and render them natively in applications other than poser. Leaving your preview mode in full shaded mode can cause some really jerky movements when trying to work with poser scenes and cameras. Change to a different mode and things will work much faster. then go back to full shaded preview when you get things set up. Ok... thats a lot of stuff but I've worked it out over the last 9 months or so and most of it is pretty solid stuff. OSX flat rocks and there is no reaon to go back into 9 if you dont have to. ; ) Best of luck!


terminusnord ( ) posted Wed, 24 July 2002 at 8:55 AM

My experiences mostly concur, except for the part about Poser running only once. I'm using 10.1.5 and Classic is starting from a 9.2.2 system folder, and I can run and quit Poser at will. I have never had to reboot Classic, nor have I ever seen Poser fail to launch in Classic mode. I have poser allocated 256MB, could it be memory related? What exactly are you getting when you try to re-launch Poser without rebooting Classic? -Adam


MarianneR ( ) posted Wed, 24 July 2002 at 9:30 AM

When I try to relaunch Poser without restarting Classic it immediately quits with the message box "Poser has unexpectedly quit. No other programs were affected" or something like that (my Mac speaks Swedish so this is translated). Contrary to Quoll on my machine Poser has behaved the same under 10.1.3 - 10.1.5 (maybe under 10.1.1 and 10.1.2 also, I don't remember). OSX and OS 9.2.something are installed on the same partition and I allocated 500 MB to Poser out of a total of 768 MB /Marianne


dan whiteside ( ) posted Wed, 24 July 2002 at 10:57 AM

"Poser5 Will be OSX native trust me" Hey Wolf, I do trust you - your posts are one of the reasons I've come back to 'osity! Best-Dan


spratman ( ) posted Wed, 24 July 2002 at 2:56 PM

I'm running Poser 4.0.3 under 10.1.5. It's sooooo slow, but it runs. I wrote CL soon as I heard about Poser5. They assured me that OSX will be supported.. Can't wait woo woo! That'll be the last of my "classics" apps! After that I'll never hafta go back


terminusnord ( ) posted Thu, 25 July 2002 at 11:32 PM

OK, I've tried everything, and I can't recreate the "Poser has unexpectedly quit" situation. I just launched Poser 4.0.3 six times in a row and I did not get any errors or anything out of the ordinary. I did not have to reboot Classic. I think there must be some part of people's OS 9 systems that is not working in Classic mode.. something I don't have. My system is: OS 10.1.5 Classic's running 9.2.2 on a different partition. Poser 4.0.3 G4/800 512MB RAM All recommended Apple software updates The 9.2.2 system folder is not crapped up with extensions of anything like that either, it's pretty stock. Poser is the only reason I've ever booted this machine in OS 9, I do everything else in X. -Adam


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