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Subject: 24 bit color may shut me out of Poser 5


queri ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 9:15 AM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 3:51 PM

It did for Painter 7. I have vertigo problems with TrueColor. If Poser 5 will not work in anything but 24 bit-- which means on my machines, 32, because there isn't any other option-- then it is not an option for me. Sob! Emily


terminusnord ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 9:32 AM

You probably need to get a new monitor. True color alone should not be causing vertigo problems. I suspect that at your true color settings, either your monitor refresh is changing im rate or quality somehow, or your video card is performing differently and adding some kind of sutble distortion to the picture. In other words, I don't think that the better color depth alone is the issue, I think some part of your system is not handling it correctly. -Adam


adoli ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 10:01 AM

Aye see if you can set your refresh on your current monitor to something like 85 Hertz.. heck anything higher than 65 :p If not consider a better monitor. Just an idea


queri ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 10:03 AM

It's a medical prob. Ever since cataract surgery, I've not been able to tolerate any refresh between 60 and 85mhz. Many screens I can't tolerate at all, Sony in particular. I generally use LCD screens because they lessen the vertigo. It's hard to get 85mhz AND 32bit color. I'm not sure if my brand new monitor, not yet out of the box, will do 85 at true color, though I know it will do 85 at 16bit, that's why I got it. It's the largest LCD I could afford-- 17 inch. That's the equivalent of a 19 inch screen, biggest I've ever had. Maybe a better video card will help, but I don't know with LCD's if that will make a difference. I really don't want to go back to 60 or 65, it's hard to work at that refresh rate for very long. Painter won't work at ALL at 16 bit-- everything looks weird, posterized. I'd like to know if the same is true for Poser 5. The awful joke is I have a computer that can work at TrueColor without making me sick, but it's a non upgradable 450mhz processor, so SOL there. Emily


kupa ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 10:23 AM

You can use whatever monitor depth rate you want with Poser 5, it just won't look as we intended it to look at the lower bit depths. There would be no problems with higher bit depths...


bantha ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 11:02 AM

By the way, if you use an lcd, you should have no problems changing the refresh rate to 60 hz, since LCD's show a constant picture. LCD's do not refresh at all, all dots are shown at the same time.


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queri ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 11:36 AM

Yes, the newest ones-- finally read the manual on my new monitor-- stay at 60. The older ones were "optimized" by Windows to 75 eeek! Thank you, Steve. I was afraid it might be like Painters' horrid acid green lines and unreadable type if you don't tune up to True Color. I've slowly taught myself to "read" Truecolor through some of the moire of High Color. But my new monitor may do True at 1000. So there's hope Yea!!! I want Poser 5!!! Finally an answer to odd bodyshapes that won't conform to clothing, throw a cloth around them and turn on the wind machine!! Emily


c1rcle ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 12:27 PM

I'm glad to hear you'll be able to use Poser5 Emily, who else can I bug with questions when it won't work right for me? Rob


Nosfiratu ( ) posted Tue, 06 August 2002 at 1:22 PM

In my experience, Windows default = 60Hz. Change this as follows (may vary depending on your flavor of Windows): 1) right-click any blank desktop area 2) Select PROPERTIES 3) Open the SETTINGS tab 4) Click the ADVANCED button 5) Select the MONITOR tab 6) Use the SCREEN REFRESH RATE to select a higher rate (like 75). If you select too high, your monitor may go blank or display an error message. In that case, sit tight for 15 seconds (or press N) and it will revert back to its original state, where you can select a lower rate.


EricofSD ( ) posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 1:59 AM

The video card helps. Its with the video card that you can choose an output for the monitor and as long as the monitor can handle that output, away you go. I have the ATI 8500DV card. It is capable of 85 herts at 32 bit color in win2k and goes to about 120 herts in ME. (driver capability). Just so you know, 600 herts, or cycles, is a similar frequency to what various internal organs resonate at, especially the eyeballs. So, if you have your monitor set to 60-65 you will find that your eyes begin to resonate and hence, vertigo. Overhead florescent lighting runs at that rate too so monitors set to that frequency resonate with the light and 'flicker'. You have to get a frequency that is offset from this to avoid the resonance and that usually means above 72 on the monitor. Sensitive eyes, like yours, can still cause you discomfort even at 85. My thoughts are that you need a high end video card and a montior that can handle it. I agree with the above comments that the color setting is likely not the culprit, but hey, I'm no medical doctor. By the way, this is why helo pilots have to fight fatigue because the main rotor on some helo's spins at the resonant frequency for various internal organs like the eye. I learned this when I was a helo mechanic doing rotor balancing (exacting work was appreciated by the pilots) and I experienced this when I became a helo pilot. You would have enjoyed riding in my choppers cuz I kept them perfectly tracked and balanced.


bikermouse ( ) posted Wed, 07 August 2002 at 3:35 AM

adoli got it right - I'd see afterimages after 2-3 hours at 70hz. 85 is still a little rough but much better for me. Also if any lights in the room glare against the screen that can be a problem. - TJ


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