Ok, I fixed the lighting.. Much better, I think. I synchronized the pistons, and modelled a quick chamfer cylinder in MAX for the cheese.. Keep in mind I have *no* idea what a real cheese factory looks like. This is just my playing around for my web page, which is named the Graphic Cheeseworks, hence the cheese factory. =) I'm also thinking about making a nice animation for it.. with the camera following the cheese as pistons chomp on it, and it comes out saying "Graphic Cheeseworks" embossed on the cheese... Just thought it'd be cute. It'll take me forever to get set up for animation and all.. not to mention the text might be troublesome... One question.. what's a good format for animation to put on a web page? Comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc. welcome as always. =) Rosh

Cheese still needs to be a little more orange, but the rest is great. The lighting works well too. I know what the part of the factory that actually makes the cheese looks like, but the part you're working on where they shape and press and package it, I have no clue. An animation would be awesome. Are you taking shockwave?

I'm talking whatever works well.. I think I can do shockwave, but I'm not sure... Let me see what's available to me. =) Rosh

Yeah.. i can do shockwave or java for sure... just curious.. exactly what is metastream? I can also do avi (of course), mpg, possibly quicktime, though i'm not sure about that.. So.. what's the best of my options? I'm guessing shockwave myself, but I don't know anything about it... and I've never actually made anything in shockwave before. Thanks. =) Rosh

Metastream is a very cool program where you get to view an object on the net in all three dimensions. You can make it bigger, smaller, rotate it and all in a very small file. I think sony uses it on their site. Anyway check out metacreation for more info.

Ok.. basically, not what I want. =) Thanks, Rosh

I'd say a small shockwave movie would be your best bet. It would take what, about four renders with the pistons and the cheeses in different positions, and then just loop that and put it on your index page as the intro, then have an entry there for them to get into the main pages. the shockwave should be on a page of it's own, and kept as small as possible. The only other option you have is a gif, and that will lose all the 3d depth and color. Java, well, as a web designer, I don't care for java much except for forms and stuff. Java tricks just slow pages down and crash the browsers of at least half the people that will visit your page. I say shockwave, for sure.

I'll probably be going with shockwave... but it's not going to be this particular image.. I'll be changing camera angle... following one thing of cheese along the process... It'll look cool, I think.. we'll have to see, of course. I'm out of practice doing animation, and I've never actually done shockwave before, so it'll be interesting. =) Rosh

That is exactly how cheese is made. And I'm from Wisconsin, I know.

Good to know.. I honestly had no idea. =) Rosh

I was kidding. Not about being from Wisconsin. It's actually made in great cylindrical vats. It smells. Maybe this is how some places package it. Mostly the good cheese is wrapped by people. Underpaid older housewives.

Oh well.. either way, I thought this would be funny. =) Rosh

Doubt anyone even does any packaging that looks like this ,Anvilhead, though there's assembly line labeling. The best cheese Wisconsin ever made was "Liederkranz", a native invention, that made the best Limburger smell like a piker, and with a translucent texture that made anyone with eyes drool. Some cheese ages for years in caves....etc. etc. etc.

If people who love cheese knew what it looked like and smelled like when it was actually made it would put them off it for a bit. I know it did me.