If you use a lot of Bryce primitives -- and who doesn't? -- rename them something meaningful with an exclamation in front of the name, for example, !sidewalk. The exclamation makes them sort to the top of the primitives list. Also, name groups in heirarchies with exclamations, with larger assemblies using more. For example, !sill would be part of !!window1; !!window1 and !frontstep would be part of !!!house. The number of exclamations doesn't have to be exact, but the larger assemblies sort to the top of the group list. This has saved what is left of my sanity many times. There is nothing more tedious than trying to find which cube between cube 1 and cube 345 is the one I want.

Freaking good tip.

I can so relate to this. Being a webmaster, my first line of defense is to create directory groups. My Bryce object files have lists within lists within lists for this reason, but I never have any trouble finding things!

Hey thats a great tip! I do lable groups, but using exclamation marks to denote group hierarchy is definitely an useful tip!

I never thought of it, just didn't occured to me...

Great tip! I wouldn't have thought of that either.

I've been doing something like this for a long time, but I take it a couple of steps further. First I use numbers, and the number correlates with the group name & numbers. By using numbers they will be listed in chronological order. So if I build an object with say 5 groups in it the first group will be named 1_group name. And all the objects in that group will be named 1_object name. I also put at the end of the name the boolean properties of the object. ie: neg, pos, inter, neut. Also if you put spaces between the numbers it will effect the order the objects are listed. example, 1 sphere would be listed before 1sphere Another thing I found useful, is to use families for objects that will have the same material on them. That way it doesn't matter which or what group the object is in, they can be easily selected to edit their material.

I've noticed that a lot of Poser folks do this (but I think in their case it's just ego!) What I would REALLY like is an explorer style mesh/object selection window so that I can make multiple selections without ctrl-click or select-mesh-click yada yada yaaaaada..

Hey! ;) No, its just practice from having to texture all those damned eyeballs.

I know what you mean... thank goodness for grouper. I was actually refering to every time you un zip something into the poser runtime folder, the new item has an ! in front of it. On a big download day, 23 out of 29 files all put the dang ! in there. What I really hate is when the .cr file points to geom names with that little bugger!! Oh, there he is again... On a different note; how do you save a file name with a space at the very begining? I have files generated by various programs with a blank space as the first character. However, if I try renaming a file using a space as the first character, windows just eliminates the space. Any ideas?

The only thing I have found that works is using the underline at the begining. _galleryfodder#235.jpg

I've done that as well, but, for instance, the Electronic Arts game "Sub Command" has files that have a blank first character. Perhaps this is not a "space" but some other legitimate character that just doesn't show up?

Found It! I had to bring up the character map viewer to find it...you can replicate a blank space in front of a file name by pressing (and holding) alt, then typing 0160, release alt. Tried in my windows explorer, it works. agentsmith.jpg