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Dude, What's your problem? I don't get what makes people like you think it's fun to troll around here belittling the artistic works of others. people use the tools they are comfortable with not what someone else thinks they should use. as far as myself even if I could spend the money on an expensive modeling program I wouldn't I'm not a modeler and I Don't want to be, and many of the other people here feel the same. your continuous trolling of this forum only proves to display your small mindedness in not accepting that poser is a tool like any other, it may not be your choice but it is ours. I've seen good work and bad work in both the poser and lightwave galleries, the piece you point out is a work of singular vision which I guess you don't understand. just as I guess you won't understand this post.

Well,'dude', I was just pondering the magnificent render that mr.wolfie has done with poser5 and the mike model. I dont call it trolling but I thought everyone might like to see the poser render engine in action. I'm sorry if you dont like me pointing it out but i thought others would like to see it also but I guess its too upsetting for 'people like you' to have 'small minded' people like me pointing things out for others to go enjoy. Have a nice day.:)

wgreenlee1 Dupe I mean dude :) that is not Poser5 & you know it, & you are being small minded as always. I would say "Have a nice day" but I'm not American & it sounds just so false when people say it. Troll on.

*"I was just pondering the magnificent render that mr.wolfie has done with poser5 and the mike model. I dont call it trolling but I thought everyone might like to see the poser render engine in action.*" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IM MAC user and Dont have poser5 but no matter I Import poser figures into other programs Like Cinema4DXl the same way **YOU** Do with vicky and and Lightwave Grweenee 1. (see pic) BTW I noticed you have deleted your gallery with all the **Naked POSER** Vicky Shots and the dancing poser baby. Too Bad some of your **NAKED poser vicky** renders in Lightwave were pretty good ;-) firefly does not impress meat all, So i will continue Use other highend programs to render my poser figures Like Grweenee1 and other fortunate owners of high end programs. **-wolf359 founding member of "the 12 animators"-**

BTW here is the mike render in Cinema4DXL frankly looking at the firefly engine im Glad poser users like grweenee1 and myself have the option of using our other programs for our POSER stuff ;-)

Wolfie,no offence but that G2 plugin shot you keep posting is not a poser render as much as you wish it to be. Thats a real time Viper-like preview from worley labs,a plugin that updates every change you make so you spend less time with pre-renders. I thought that you had P5 but I guess not ,sorry.

NO problem ;-) *"Wolfie,no offence but that G2 plugin shot you keep posting is not a poser render as much as you wish it to be."* AS a lightwave owner I can see that is not a poser render from my standards the poser render engine SUCKS!!! But the HIres DAZ/POSER MODELS are nice which is why **YOU used Naked vickies** in your (NOW deleted LW gallery) and why i use them in my Cinema4DXl work :-) BTW have you Downlaoded the Lightwave demo files from siggraph 2002 at newtek??? Alot of great Character/IK /effects setups to take apart and learn from like this Cute SAS Doggie. (Pic) Catch a wave a Lightwave!!! **-wolf359 founding member of "the 12 animators"-**

Yeah Daz rocks. I wish I could model like they do over there. Ive seen a few of those Daz dragon renders that look pretty sweet,I looked for it but cant find it. It was a faked global illumination render that even with the basic texture turned out pretty cool. What did you do with that mikeLWlogo render? I was wanting to show Poton and them over at CGTalk.

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Im re rendering it Still playing with settings etc. heres a LW cel shaded animation from those Siggraph 2002 files they rock!!!