Just got P5 this afternoon and trying it out I noticed that it really pushes the CPU and pushes up the core temperature. I am using an internal core temp monitor (MBM 5) on an XP2000 CPU with 1.5 gigs of EEC Registered DDR Ram, OS Win 2k Pro.

Poser 4 also pushes the temperature of the core up by 2-3 degrees Celsius above any other graphics/modelling programs I use. P5 (just on a few trials with the Judy figure and changing poses) pushes the core temp between 1 to 2 degrees (Celsius) further than P4.

So, to those that are ALREADY near the temperature operating limits of their AMD systems - be careful - you don't want to damage or burn out your CPU, use a good core temp monitor. Some P5 instabilities being experienced by some users could be related to over-hot CPU's.

Use more internal fans, close down non-essential processes and the best tip of all open an outside window or door and watch the temp drop. Computers like cold - so instead wear gloves and sweaters and enjoy the fresh air! ;o)

This is not meant to be alarmist or scare-mongering, anyone using AMD CPUs (which are fantastic for graphics and 3D) should be aware of the temperature issues of these chips. I can't speak for Intels, perhaps someone else will.

Regards
STORM

you are right, with poser 4 or 5 the cpu is always running at 100%.In other 3d apps mostly only when rendering. Im on a amd 2000xp and the temperatur is most time at 50C running poser its about 57 ( with a good cpu cooler and a additional fan) AMD can stand about 80C so enough room for me.

I have an AMP 1800+...the temp reading in the BIOS is always around 42C, and using the temp monitor that came with the MB..around 45C during operation.... Any ideas where this temperature is monitored from???? I'm sure its different according to MB...but do you guys have separate temp monitoring sensors that you've installed ??? This seems pretty low compared to most readings I've seen in different forums, and considerably lower than above....or perhaps I just have a nice cool system...using cpu retail fan/cooler, 2 exhaust case fans.

What I did was place a small table fan under my desk and aim it directly at my tower. So far it has cut down all the lockup problems I'd been having with my computer (not just in Poser). Kate

Thank you for the warning and some great tips! I hadn't even given that a thought but as soon as I read your post, the penny dropped. I certainly appreciate the tip!!

~Di

Did it come up heads or tails ?

If you get the AMD 2200 it actually runs cooler cause its a different dye set than the 1800. The chip is cheap and the 333 board is like $79. It might be worth it to just upgrade your chip and/or motherboard. I have this with a deluxe fan and don't need extra fans in my setup. And its fast. Almost makes P5 usable... DOH! My bad.

Try using VCOOL should help. You can find that at: http://vcool.occludo.net/ Actually my CPU Temp (1800+XP)is at 25C with IE, Eudora, Mirc running. And with Poser 5? Well, let's try! Only starting without rendering: 29C Fireflyrendering: 36-38C Nice!

I run an Athlon 1.4 Ghz running at 1.8 Ghz using a tornado fan 7000 RPM normal temps for me are 37-40c when using Poser 4 under load temps are up to 43c when using Poser 5 under load temps are up to 47c all well within cpu heat parameters I also run my system with the left side of the case open actually gives me better heat dissipation

Dave-So, the temperature for the CPU is recorded from a thermal sensor that is located in the socket (its on a thin piece of plastic that should put it right on the bottom of the CPU die). 40c to 60c seems to be the average range for AMD CPUs. The CPU temperature should never reach above 70c. Theres entire groups dedicated to cooling systems, the right way seems to depend on the group and their extremes. ^__^;; ~DM (who still thinks its crazy to put a Peltier system in a computer)

I've always wanted one of those little waterfalls....maybe I could pipe that baby right into my system and have dual ambience and core cooling all at the same time....

Back in New York, my predecessors working with 386s used to keep the case off their towers in the summer time.

no Dave-So , you do NOT want a radiator! whomever thought to put a water cooled device (radiator) in an ALL electrical system was smoking a little too much homegrown that day :) A Peltier is a thermalelectric device as small as the die of the processor , electrically powered and has the effect of a freezer.One side gets very hot! (goes to the heatsink/fan) and the other side sub zero temps. My bud uses a Peltier on his XP 2100 , his normal operating temp is -30c you can see some peltiers at www.3dcool.com duanemoody ,here in So. Cal. I run with my case off year round :)

I've seen water-cooled systems. Those people frighten me. They're the same sort who came up with the idea of mounting a plexiglass window and neon lighting in their cases.

hehehehh Little Dragon that was gonna be my next modification 9x11 plexi window with purple neon illuminating all the goodied inside :D

~DM

no Dave-So , you do NOT want a radiator! >whomever thought to put a water cooled device (radiator) >in an ALL electrical system was smoking a little too much >homegrown that day :) No risk there, water itself is an electrical isolant... It's the ions in the water which act as the conductor... Most sane watercooled systems users use distilled water, which is a pretty good isolant. Also, the water is not in direct contact with the motherboard and CPU anyway... I have been thinking about this kind of system for a while myself, because of the SILENCE! No fan noise at all :) As for peltiers, they have drawbacks : the overall heat output is largely positive. It does cool the CPU, but heats all the system (chipset, that already very warm GPU, RAM chips...).

Yeah, but I've seen the end results when one of those systems breaks down, and it's not pretty. Like anything, if you can live with the risks, then more power to you. I cant afford the risks at this point in time. On the other hand, if I could get that non-corrosive non-conductive non-toxic liquid coolant that Cray used to use, then Id probably be singing a different tune. ~DM

~DM