I got this in my e-mail today...it shows you a part of what I go through...I call it harrassment...yup...it certainly is that...ya know...I hate politics...I really, truly do...I think it has NO place in an art community...none whatsoever...because it INTERFERES with the gist of things... When you have telents and creativity and inspirations destroyed time and time again by petty politics of days gone by it really...really...really SUCKS big time!!! You know I never wanted any trouble...I asked this guy politely to just LEAVE ME ALONE....but no...he had to keep on bugging me...send me more stuff...like I just wanna leave the past alone...anything I ever had to do with these forum pasts that made these forums what they are today...I long ago and then some apologized over and over and over again....how many times do I have to say sorry for stuff I am not even certain I had anything to do with??? All I know...is that somehwere...somehow...I got caught in the middle...more than likely cause I had a big mouth or I was trying to help someone....and look...I still get shafted...again and again and again...like some relentless leech past that will not let go.... Like leave me alone...I am trying real hard to be right here...I do NOT NEED THIS SHIT...I asked you to LEAVE ME ALONE and yet you still fester like some disease that cannot let things be well!!! You know Mico/Dendras...and all your wonderful friends whomever they may be...you got a problem with Jack...so...let it go man...the guy ain't bad at all....he did a lot for this community and half your shit be worth squat if it werent' for him and Ed making these forums "worth" some "value" in their riegn here...I think far too amny folks just damn well forget that....if it weren't for Jack and company NO ONE WOULD BE MAKING SQUAT MONEY ON ANY POSER SHIT CAUSE THREY STARTED THE BALL ROLLING....be thankful...stop causing shit and holding grudges...I am not your damn punching bag...stop trying to find people like ME to let out your steam on cause I wash my friggen hands of all this shit and just want to FIT in...ya know...??? Why can you not see that???....why??? Was a time...there would be NO WAY I would ever post private stuff like this...but shit...others do it time and time again...for far more petty shit that THIS!! So what the fuck huh....go for it... Enjoy.... Subject: Incidently... Yeah...this is the kind of shit I still get in my e-mail again and again....and people wonder WHY I change my username so much...man...I have to...I try like fuck to get em off my trail...change...but yet they still fuckin' manage to wipe my face in shit...again and again...shit I don't want anything to do with....cause it's WRONG!!! ------------------------------------------------------------ The correct spelling is "Incidentally". Instant Message from pete_: Listen bub...how dare you link to my site and start up some damn stupid constest to download my work! Who the hell do you think you are???? Well, I think I have an easier time keepting track of who the hell I am, because I only have one alias. You're up to, what? A dozen? I dunno, Peter... who the hell do you thing YOU are replacing Molly with a text message that says "Tell Mico to fuck off..."? And how dare you share a confidential email I sent you with DSI? I got news for you...I used to have enormous respect for you and your talents, your CD's were some of the finest around...cherible...but after this crap...I pitched them all... Oh, boo, hoo, hoo...... I got news for YOU: Your opinion means about as much to me as what I have on the bottom of my boot. Since we're on the subject, you should only have CD 1, and consider this your revocation of the license to use them. SInce you had the CD for two years and never did a single render with the contents, I think I'll survive without the publicity. As for the rest of your message, I didn't get you involved in Poser politics, you got yourself involved when you gave my email to DSI and they posted it on their site via Stormrage's site. Since you seem to be having memory problems, let me help you out here: You had gotten a copy that had a correction in it that was made AFTER I sent it to a very few people, and you were the ONLY one who received that correction, and since that correction showed up on Stormrage's site, the only person who could have given it to her was you. GOT IT? THINK YOU CAN GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD? By virtue of the fact that you posted a download that read "Tell Mico to fuck off...", even more people now see you as someone to be trivialized and ignored, because all you accomplished by doing that was to show yourself to be exactly what you are. You want to be kept out of politics? Try keeping confidential emails confidential, especially when you write "this is safe with me, I just want to stay out of it." Well, Petie, when you lie and get caught, as you did, you get yourself involved, so don't go looking to me to "keep you out of it". I sent you an email in confidence, you broke that confidence, and when the fallout came you rtan away leaving spiteful notes behind like a little girl. You want to betray a confidence? Be my guest, reap the rewards, and don't start bawling when your petty tactics backfire. you go right ahead and ASSUME that I got right into it all again by sending all that garbage that I "deleted" after I read it to folks So you admit that you "read it to folks". Thanks, I appreciate that. ..that is why I still don't ever give these places credibility for as long as these silly games can be played again and again at the expense of inspirations and talents that get thrown in the garbage over and over...these places cannot possibly hold any more professional value than some online game park or worse! I never wanted it to begin with...ever...I only came to these places to do art....ART....and maybe, just maybe make a few friends along the ways and have some fun too./// Poor, poor Radart the victim, Radart the innocent..... oh, you poor poor troubled little boy.... how I weep for you, RadArt who was once a respected artist and is now the laughingstock of the Poser community, because he'd rather post pictures of squirrels with testicles than actually create art, although he says he WANTS to create art. Does it bother you that MAYBE ten people take you seriously anymore? No wonder your life is falling apart; I'm just sorry I can't get it on cable. I'd like to write you some more, but the tears are starting to get my keyboard soggy. By the way, a bunch of us are following this, and we're all waiting for the 'GO AHEAD!! GO AHEAD!! CRAP ON MY HEAD!! GAAAAAHH!!" messages to start. The popcorn is ready. Go for it, because we could all use a good laugh over here. Dendras ------------------------------------------------------------ Now that you have read this titillating montage...I need to say something.... You know...I am pissed at this...I really am....and cause I am pissed...I tend to get all flustered and start being real open...and yak a lot.... If this is all true what this guy says...I have very little to lose...so what the fuck...I can say whatever I want...and I am so, very sorry if I hurt any feelings or make a stink...but I just gotta say this...ban me...screw me...tar me...I just don't give a drat anymore cause this is just shit... Poser...poser...poser...I go to a reutable school....ya wanna know what happens when you mention poser in school?? And I am talking CG now...a world class everything...poser should be a top notch tool...to use...this should be Curiouslabs GOAL,...to make Poser all there is to be....but no...it's far from anything...in fact...it's damn embarrassing if you even mention you USE IT......and you know why...ya wanna know WHY????? Poser is known for PORNO!! All those lovely renderings of posettes rendered limb from limb...diddled this way and that way...CD's full of sex toys...torture...mayhem...Poser is dangerous....that is why it has NO CREDIBILITY...this man here...he has awsome talents...making ropes...making stakes...making things so us folks can manipulate women in the most lovely ways imaginable...sent me a CD once...I threw it in the garbage...I do NOT NEED IT!! So, is this what poser was intended for...??..Is it...?? I ask you because this ia what I see...more than anything else this is what I see....look around...all over the net...look at anyplace that has poser and see...see what sells, what poser stands for...what poser has become... It's damn disgusting....it is... Curioslabs...my message to you....people worry so much about you EULA....they should worry far MORE about what people DO with poser to make it into a mockery and a disgusting piece of software to be ashamed of using!! Artists create beauty...enhance wonder...they were not meant to flog and torture women and play with little girls in 3D....heck...we got enough "anime" to depict that...all we needed was another piece of software to make a reputation as a piece of SEEDY software good for naught more than the porno pics of the day.... I have seen websites that make my stomach crawl...done in poser...so poor they make poser look like an amateur kids toy game...any wonder it has no credence...yet the guestbooks get hurrah's and yay's...why??...cause men are pigs... Perhaps Curioslabs should really consider making some kind of REAL teeth caluse suggesting that their fine tool should NEVER be allowed to make gutter art like this...perhaps THAT would change poser into the fine tool it SHOULD BE...not this...not trash it creates so guys can get their jollies with virtual reality at the expense of other fine artists that really know what to DO with the quality this tool holds! I think I need a smoke now...I think I talk...way too much...and yeah...I am sensitive when it comes to art...sue me... Blech! One more thing...politics and art,...they should NOT have anything to do with the other...it's so wrong...so wrong...talents wasted...art wasted...for what...cause someone has a shit...what a fuckin' waste...yeah...yet it happens all the time on these forums...and then you wonder why these places don't appear professional on the OUTSIDE...because people...like this...don't wanna stop the babyshit!!! I don't wanna be many different people here...aliases....I just wanna be me...Radart...DragonWalk...Pete...whatever...it be real nice if folks let me do my thing and let me BE ME....but I keep getting into shit I do not want to be in...and why...why?? WHY??? I asked him nicely...real nicely...to leave me alone!!! It just don't...can't...seem to happen....nohow...

Well...I know of at least one forum this has already been deleted from....real shame too... Ya know...there are some real...REAL concerns in this post...about poser...about the WELFARE of all these communities...and the FUTURE....maybe some wish to hide their heads in the sand...but REALITY is REALITY and guess what...we all suffer...all will suffer...curiouslabs...me...everyone...YOU....these very forums....yes...in the long run...everyone suffers!! Hiding the FACTS won't solve shit....only delay...the inevitable...unless something IS DONE ABOUT IT!! Your perrogative....sorry for ruffling feathers with the truth...I truly am....sorry...

You put "Tell Mico to fuck off" in the zip that Den's "Humiliate Molly Mostly Contest" was linked to? ROFLMAO! Now that's priceless, Peter. Class act bud - way to go. ;] shrug I'd say you prolly thought you were the hoster of the zip and owner of the character being downloaded...

Hi, Pete. What are you talking about?

delay the inevitable what exactly? your long post up there made no sense to me at all.

Just dead air...next time someone cries about their stuff being stolen...downloaded...copied...resold....watch me say the same...oh yeah....

I'm sorry to say that while i like your work, I am exteremely put off by your self-righteous rant about the uses of Poser. If you don't like what you see in the thumbnail, move on... For all the carp that is done with poser though, remember that it takes Shit to make a Rose!

Your somehow missing the whole point....it is not a self-rightious rant when you are attacked by someone...this has nothing to do with any thumbnail or any particular rendering even.... There is absolutely NOTHING....NOTHING in this whole poser world that could possibly "phase me"....I could give a personal crap about any BDSM or pixie probing....to me...it is like looking at everyday traffic....but I am not the sustenance of CG art....I am merely just another artist that feels poser is an incredible tool for creating 'art' caught up in a world that seems to feel poser is just another incredible "sim people" game with folks that will sell and resell add-ons and goodies time and time again...and look...it has one very incredible BDSM package that is one real HOT potato seller and man...so many followers.... I always felt poser is so much 'more' than 'JUST' this...I argue that all the time...unfortunatly I have just been 'told' by various lovely representatives and vendors of our community that I am wrong and just shut my yap and accept it for what it is.... Man....that blows chunks...

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