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Hey, that looks pretty damn cool. I'm gonna have to try this.. what do you model in? Rosh

Actually this guy looks sorta like a creature in the Hellfire expansion of Diablo, not that much like it but since the graphics quality of Diablo I is sorta old its hard to tell anyway :) Ether way great model. -F3nix

Nice, in an icky sort of way :) You just keep getting better and better at these Davo. Very impressive Paul

Very cool. I like your style. Would you consider making a AD&D-style beholder?

Ihawk: I've never seen one? do you have a scan or link to an image? If yes let me know. Davo ps, be sure to check out bbay.com/davo

I'll find a image of a beholder for you Davo, another cool one to do would be a Illithid, they are humanoid but are (and this is the best way to put it) sorta a crossbreed between a squid and a human tho that prolly dosn't give you the right image, i'll try and track down some images for you. AD&D has been my main insperation for alot of my images, I used to play it when i was a teenager and I still enjoy online games with the same type of theam. -F3nix

F3NIX: Cool. I'm limited in my modelling abilities, but I'll take a look at what you guys give me. I bought both Barlowes guide to extraterestrials and the fantasy book, pretty cool stuff. A friend suggested "the old one" from the HP Lovecraft genre. So much stuff. I want to get some creatures out of the way then work on something I know you guys would love. It will be hard to do, but worth the work and money I think. Please, if you guys have suggestions, links or pics, pass them along to me. I do sell most of the stuff I make, so if you really like something really bad and think it's work the 25-30 bucks, lemme know. davo, ps, clue about my next project: think of magik the gathering flying boat with sails thingy.

Umm... straight out of my monster manual (on CD)..The first one's the illithid, second is the beholder. Good luck. =)

Ermm.. oops.. here's the illithid:

Argg.. Dont do clothing, sorry, too much a challenge for me. The beholder, however, may be do-able, but I'm not sure I could do a posable mouth, or close-able eye, the tentacle eyes aren't too hard though. I'll see, thanks for the images and input though, they go into my collection of possibilities. Keep 'em comming. Davo

Just curious, what do you model in? And how do you do the tentacle eyes? I've been trying to make those for a while.. Thanks, Rosh

I make the body parts in Organica (exept for the tentacles), Organica is a metballs modeler that is pretty cool, it is limited and it's first and probably last version. You can see more about it at coolfun.com. I export the Organica body parts as 3ds format and import all the parts into Rhino. In Rhino I arrance the body and limbs, claws, etc as I like them, I can copy, rotate, scale, mirror parts, etc. I then export all the parts as a single obj file into poser4. I do some stuff in poser then export a new obj file into uvmapper, then re-import into poser for more steps, then save the new figure, do joint params. I think I'll make a simple and basic step by step with pictures tutorial with pre-supplied parts. Davo

That would be really cool, Davo. Thanks.. I pretty much use Rhino for most of my stuff, never could get a hang of metaballs.. but then all I've used are Truespace3's sucky ones and a Max plugin's memory-guzzling ones.. Oh well.. hehe, Rosh

If anyone has access to a scanner and the Illithiad, there are many cool - and different - images of the illithids in that book; Gary Gygax created them (originally called "Mind Flayers") as a tribute to H.P. Lovecraft, or so I've heard. Essentially, they're 6-7' tall humanoid amphibbeans (sp?) with a beaked mouth surrounded by four (or six for the larger Ulitharid variety) 4' long tentacles, and large, bulbous white eyes that see only in the infrared spectrum. They also, IIRC, only have three fingers and a thumb, and generally have gaunt bodies. It would be darned cool to have one of those buggers running around, terrorizing Posette (and mind-blasting Victoria back to the previous millenium... :-)). Beholders are fun critters too - and according to the defunct Spelljammer setting, they come in so many shapes and sizes that just about anything roundish with a mouth somewhere, a large eye, and at least three eye-stalks can be called a Beholder.

Roshigoth: Organica is very simple and basic. It has several pre-assigned shapes, (ball, pyramid, rod, cube, ovalish, torus, etc, etc.) When you add a shape to the viewport (4 viewports, top, front, side and a viewport in perspective that shows what the object actually look like) and add another shape next to it, they "goop" together. The further you pull them apart, the thinner the goop is in the middle. You can rotate, move and scale the parts. You can control the mesh density to have smooth (more triangles and larger output size) to rough (less triangles and smaller output size), rough meshes can be smoothed to a degree in Rhino. You can export as 3ds format and import that into rhino. You should check the program out. The site has had a "special price" of I think 150 dollars for about...oh...since the product came out a few years ago. All my creatures parts have been created in Organica. Charliebrown: I may put one together just for fun, Davo

I checked the webpage out.. I know about metaballs, just never cared for them because all the programs I used that had them implemented them poorly.. I might get it, but my budget's a little tight right now, so I'll probably pass. If I ever upgrade my memory, I should be able to use the plugin I've got for Max.. =) Rosh

Rosh, E-mail me at davids@esmcivil.com asap Davo