Impressive, most impressive...

Knickers...

I thank you bagginsbill, and I'm sure other forum members will too...

Knickers

Never mind I tried it again and it worked...

Knickers

Quote - Youtube is littered with many 3D tutorials, some good, some better than others.  But to answer the question, yes, other 3D modeling programs are better than using Poser.  There are more tools for manipulating the mesh available and, with some apps, the ability to create UV mapping for texturing.  Another important aspect you must consider if you want to easily change colors and materials in clothing.

That's just great! Something else to learn! lol :rolleyes:

Knickers

Quote - Considering a chiton is essentially rectangles of cloth held with brooches, I might recommend a tutorial set called 'fun with flat things'. It will certainly help your learning in the cloth room too.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/fun-with-flat-things/89242

Currently on sale, it seems!

Thanks piersyf, I'll do that!

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I understand what you say hborre and rokket, but even my floundering around is teaching me a lot about running Poser. I'm old fashioned, what I would really like to have is a good, printed manual, so I could look up and see what these millions of controls actually do, instead of trying to find out by trial and error.

Do people use modellers to create everything? People, clothes, props, scenes, etc.?

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I decided I wanted to try doing some clothing creation from scratch so I watched this video:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/videopro/index.php?View=Y&video_id=186
repeatedly, over and over again, while I tried to duplicate corinthianscori's success in Poser 10. Even though the video was done using Poser 6, as near as I could tell the same functionality is present in Poser 10 so I decided to try it. Despite repeated attempts I was unable to get past the Cloth Simulation. This is the best I've been able to do:

I've tried parenting the ball to body, hips, abdomen, thighs, etc and the is the best I've been able to get. It is supposed to morph into a miniskirt. Can anyone tell me what's wrong? It appears that the back of the mini skirt is ending up front too, as though it is not being mapped correctly to Alyson's body.

Thanks...
Knickers

Right now I'm going through all of the video tutorials looking for anything clothing related.

But there's so much other stuff to learn, lighting, and how to create a scene. I love this: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/full.php?image_id=2510944
and would love to be able to do something similar, though I'm sure I'll never be up to Shozai's standard, they have done a beautiful job.

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Quote - For exemple, a fast portrait

That is really nice, I'd like to learn to light a scene that way...

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I tried a sample Dawn with the Alyson dynamic dress, and it worked fairly well (after almost a dozen attempts), here are a couple of pics:

The draping turned out fairly nice, and I could probably play with it and get it better, and then I got this:

As you can see it had this little weirdity at the thin straps. The cloth room didn't get them above her skin so I tried to do it with the morph tool. It looks like it's turned inside out. I think the problem was that it was too deep inside Dawns shoulder and I had to work it too much to get it out. Since it was so thin, the angle I was using the morph tool affected the surface it was trying to pull it toward, as well as pulling on it unevenly. The net result is that it turned inside out, and then it no longer works as intended.

Overall, I'm pleased with the way it works, and I think I can get around the problem with the straps.

Knickers

Quote - No, not a video. Dynamic cloth is a literal description; it reacts with its environment, and that can only happen if there is a time function. I don't do animations at all, but use the cloth room quite a bit.

As to how to do draping in the cloth room, I could tell you... but why reinvent the wheel? Much better video tutorial right here...

http://poser.smithmicro.com/tutorials/advanced/clothroom101.html

I just watched the video, and the cloth room looks really useful, I will try it out. Will it work with any piece of clothing? Even if it wasn't designed for the figure? And the way it handles the draping, that I have to try out.

Knickers

Quote - Forgot to mention the morph tool... you can morph ANY mesh... put dents in a wall if you like. As to fitting dynamic clothing to Dawn, getting practice with the morph tool is very useful, but there is another way...

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/videopro/index.php?View=Y&video_id=445

 

I found that video a few days ago, but watched it again. Fugazi1968 shows how to save the dress after altering it, that was one of my questions. But what is he talking abvout when he mentions the simulation and 30 frames? Is he making a video of her morphing?

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Quote - Dynamic clothing is a prop, a mesh that has no 'identity' of its own (so isn't in the 'character' folder). It gets its shape from draping over your figure.You can mostly fit dynamic clothing to any character.

Conforming clothing is a mesh designed to match the figure. It has the same 'identity' as the figure it is made for. As an example, if you were to load say a Victoria 4 figure and pose her, if you then load a conforming clothing item (drag and drop onto the figure) the clothing will automaticallyadopt the same pose as the parent figure (V4).

So that's why some clothes appear in the people directory! Conforming  are in the people directory, and the rest (mostly) are in props.

Quote - Further, in the bottom fields of the clothing item's property tab you can tick to follow morph targets and scale. If you then morph and/or alter V4's scale, the clothing will automatically follow. No cloth room required. Only requirement is that the clothing item must already have those morph options available to it. That can be fixed quite easily now, but possibly a bit past what this explanation is about...

Dynamic clothing usually gives much more realistic draping than conforming clothing does, but it takes time. For many poses conforming is just fine, easier and quicker. It's really a matter of need; which is better for the image you want to do.

Just how does one do the draping? When I try and do it, it looks like Dawn slept in it...

Quote - Oh, and there are hybrid conforming/dynamic clothes, usually dresses with conforming top and dynamic skirt. Close fitting bodice, flowing skirt, easy fitting. Best of both worlds.

Now that sounds useful!

Quote - Huge amount to cover with this one... like everything else with 3D software.

Thanks piersyf!
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Quote - The Scriptsmenu folder is where Scenefixer should reside.  I don't remember off hand if the script is in it's own folder (I believe it is, but it's been a while since I installed it into my Poser).  If not, you create your own folder and drop it in there.  The Wacros folder is generally reserved for scripts directly involved with the Material Room and can only be access directly from the MatRoom.

I just did it. Now I can execute it from the Scripts menu, and I put it where you said. Couldn't be simpler...

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EDIT: on my Mac, it appears in the Scripts drop down just like it does in yours...

Quote - That's perfectly fine.  I prefer to pursue my scripts from the pull down menu just for convenience.

I don't know whether PP14 is the same, but in P10 I can click on a vacant menu entry, denoted by the ... and put the script in there. I was going to say: 'that was sure easy', but I just tried it and the menu entry is not remembered following a restart of P10. Putting it in a menu would sure be nice...

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