"Just a thought."? Working without tools, I see. Jeff, since you are obviously lacking a keen sense of the obvious, allow me to favor you with this summary. My response to Tim's inactions differ in the following ways: 1. It is not an attck; it is a statement of fact. 2. I did not indulge in the foul-mouthed stream of filth that Dillinger favors; 3, Your concern for my statement and quick reaction to my statement regarding Tim, in contrast to the admin's inactivity regarding the attacks by members like Trimax, is the clarification that I think the membership needs to see. Now back off. If you wish to engage in a battle of wits I think you're very badly outmatched.

Oh, like I was trying to help? Right. I'm overreacting. Let me spell it out for you: I-Q-U-I-T-C-A-N-C-E-L-M-Y-M-E-M-B-E-R-S-H-I-P-A-N-D-G-O-O-D-B-Y-E

HI RIGHT BACK! I quit. Go see the "Private Message from Dillinger" forum. Get a hold of me at Renderotica or the new place (look for Dendras.). Gotta tell ya, I'm so p**sed off right now I'm shaking. Let's chat later. My site is also listed there. Be well.

Right. OK. I think I see an easy way out of this. If I don't give anyone support, I don't have to deal with the results. Thank you, Jeff, for abdicating your (and Edgenet's) responsibility so neatly and thoroughly. Good job. It's apparent to me that these guidlines come into play only when they pertain to your little clique. Man, it's high school all over again. Or worse. I had this stupid, idiotic idea that if we supported each other then the wounds would heal, and we could foster a sense of community. I clearly see by your above comments that that is not to be the case. I quit. Grow a pair, will ya? It'll help later on. Have fun presiding over what will be left of the mess you folks have helped to create. My God!! No WONDER you guys get flamed so often! What a complete dissapoinment this is. What a waste of resource! I QUIT GOODBYE

Are you KIDDING? I give this creep my support, and get this in exchange? May I remind you of the guidelines this site has? May I remind you that the rapidly dwindling membership is completely resentful of their perception that these are being applied unevenly, seemingly at certain individuals and not others? This is a joke, right? How would YOU feel if you had been in my position. PLEASE. Give me a BREAK!

Hmmm... sounds like I just made a new friend. Cool!

PJF: Replying to an earlier msg. Dillinger is worse than a "foul mouthed individual". I think he's pyschotic. Go see my post re: Priv. Message From". Canary100 set me straight.

I hope to see BOTH of you there......

As someone who owns 2 dogs and is studying to be a vet, I see that as an inflammatory comment. Get yer gloves, on, pal! Yeah! Let's have another fight! FIGHT!!! ;-)

Canary100: That kind of puts it all in a new light, doesn't it? I see your point. Clearly. OK, I take it back. I take it all back. Ban the putz. I DO NOT, however, want to retract the comment I made regarding the administration's actions. I think a vote might show good intent, but is (for the reasons JDK cited...) wrong. Dead wrong. Thanx for the reply.

You betcha!! :-)

Oh, I agree with you. Completely. I am too. But I think our (I mean the members, not just you and me) have to have higher standards of behavior and ethics than others who I will deliberately not name for the sake of the community. I am relieved that you did not take my comments personally. Thank you.

Driv: You know I consider you a friend; and that remains unchanged. I might suggest that we be the better party, and NO MATTER WHAT...let's try to avoid any comments of any kind that might be inflammatory, NO MATTER WHAT, as hard as it is... do NOT react when attacked. Personally, if this site worsens and becomes intolerable, I plan to simply revoke my membership without comment. I think THAT is comment enough. Let's not make it worse for those who choose to remain.

Unfairly? This is RIDICULOUS! Also, JDK is right: The admin here is cutting its own throat. If I were them (which I'm not), I'd have a private word with him and let the whole thing slide.

I'll priv. message... we are getting WAY off topic... not good. (Apologies to all concerned)