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Les, thanks for passing on that information!

I am sure glad I noticed this thread. Researching the problem, I discovered that when Victoria 3 Service Release 1 was released in 2003, there were also Service Releases for the Head Morphs and Body morphs packs. I've been going all this time without those updates!

Assuming you are a long-time supporter of the Poser community (rather than someone using stolen intellectual property), the problem is easily solved by logging onto your DAZ account, going to your itemized order history, finding the line where you purchased V3 Head Morphs pak, and clicking the RESET button next to it.

Within 30 minutes, you will have permission to re-download the V3 Head Morphs pak. The downloaded version contains the missing morphs.

Message edited on: 12/24/2005 08:30

I gather the issue here is that he ALREADY did the work of modelling these likenesses, so is wanting to make some benefit out of that work already done...

1. It helps that these people sent their photos voluntarily to you, for you to make a 3D character. So at least we aren't dealing with camera-shy people. And they won't have a complaint that you obtained the image of them, since they gave it to you themselves. 2. However, suddenly having EVERYONE able to make scenes involving those likenesses -- that could deeply bother someone. I don't think you should release those likenesses as is. 3. As suggested, modify the likenesses. Often doesn't take much. 4. DO whatever you can to reach people who sent you photos -- at least post messages in places where those people might be hanging out -- saying what you would like to do, and saying that anyone who doesn't want their likeness used, to please contact you, and you will not use their likeness.

Oddly, on my system, tthloback is an M3 morph, but not a V3 morph. Maybe London works fine without it. To avoid waiting for missing morph every time, save your character back to the library under a different name. Your saved version should load back to a new project with no complaints.

NOTE: I wrote this message before the previous message appeared: either there is an updated version of V3 head morphs, or some additional add-on supplied it? My V3 lists: TthLo- -Crkd, -Depth, -ExCrkd, -Fang, -Height, etc., but NO "TthLoBack" is present.

Message edited on: 12/23/2005 23:29

Huh. Content Paradise's Advanced Search is rather sad, as it apparently lacks a way to say "only show me Project AND Human", and then didn't seem to list them, even after looking through pages of unrelated figures. But I finally noticed them under "Related Links" from one item: Project Human: Female http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11693 Project Human: Male http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11694

I am thrilled to see open source human models available. Re the Open Source 3D models, I tried to download them, from open3dproject.org, but even after logging in, every one simply said "Access Denied". For the Zygote ones, I am happy to hear about DAD's rigs -- downloading them now -- thanks DAD. For the Project Humans, I found the ContentParadise links for downloading one of them(apologies if I'm stating the obvious): Project Human: Female - LoRes http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11902 Are the other two (Project Human: Male, and the NOT loRes Female) available anywhere?

Ah, I'm talking about whether the LICENSE ITSELF is copyrighted, NOT whether the STUFF BEING PROVIDED is copyrighted. Of course the STUFF is copyrighted.

In other words, GPL'd stuff is copyrighted, but I didn't think the GPL license itself was a copyrighted work. Many licenses are not -- that is, you are free to write your own license, borrowing terms from existing licenses.

Note that this license says "the wording and conditions of this license are Copyrighted ...". I've never seen that clause before. But then I don't usually bother to read licenses; I know what publishers do and don't want me to do.

=> I don't want to hijack this thread with a discussion of copyright. I came back here to delete my post before someone responded to it, but since it is too late for that, let me just request we not discuss this topic further on this thread. <= If anyone does wish to discuss copyright or licensing further, please do so by starting a new thread, then posting here a link to that thread. That way, only interested people need follow that link.

Message edited on: 12/17/2005 22:03

How about "open source with a license whose TERMS are COPYRIGHTED"??? Read the license. Someone doesn't want others to copy their LICENSE TERMS?! Ultimate bizarreness. While this has no influence on what permissions you have to use the MATERIALS you are downloading, it still makes me shudder.

As I predicted, when I tried again now I get in fine. So anyone having trouble, just come back a few hours after your first login attempt.

Message edited on: 12/17/2005 18:37

Tried download on a second computer, also Win XP & IE 6. Still sent in circles. But it was from the same IP address. I'm betting that their web programmer made a mistake, and that their server is somehow remembering its decision that I'm an unregistered user. Bet if I try again in an hour or two (or perhaps tomorrow) it will magically work.

Message edited on: 12/17/2005 09:46

Message edited on: 12/17/2005 09:47

I also get sent in circles when try to download. Using IE 6 on Win XP.

violet, I like the mental playing with "Prycer" :-D How I picture this: Imagine that you had an assistant who was operating the computer. You talk to that assistant. You stick to the "concepts", as in your middle paragraph. Not have to figure out HOW to accomplish those tasks. :) Like any assistant, it doesn't always do what you thought you meant - so you mix sweeping requests with little adjustments.

"Je N'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte." -- Pascal ("I have only made this letter rather long because I have not had time to make it shorter.") found on: palimpsest.stanford.edu/byform/mailing-lists/exlibris/2003/07/msg00105.html