EClark1894 posted at 4:06PM Wed, 23 November 2016 - #4290727

shante posted at 4:45PM Wed, 23 November 2016 - #4290713

wow dis thread is looooong! so my two bits:

1. investment.....too heavily invested in body fix morphs, pose morphs, hair, clothes props and accessories and skins
2. support for her was longer term than the newer daz figures who keep updating their figures every year it seems and do not seem to want to allow third party vendors to catch up and offer the same collection of add-ons that have gathered for V4.
3. I see what happened to Antonia Polygon, started as a Poserverse group project and taken up by RDNA and now....what?.....ABANDONED with the closing of RDNA! I think the fact V4 has been around so long is the appeal of the community and the support of the community. All others including the out of the box Poser figures that have come out and still do come out are not as nice looking out of the box (at least i have seen very few characters or renders of these newer girls that look as nice as V4 did and still do). If the D/S figures played nice in Poser w/o that damn DSON crap I would probably have invested. I see a lot of nice renders with those figures and i love the unimesh creature options that they have offered as builds for the figures. but still too much of heavy re-investment for dis guy to trip over. The Mil 4 figures will be the last i will buy i think.

I think I owe them this because of the debate on the SM forum, but have you tried the utility for G3 from Will Dial and Lululee?

Also, an effort is being made to find home for Antonia Polygon now. It's looking like it may be at CP. Also A3Hd has offered to host her on his site.

Oh cool! thanks for that info. That utility s for characters only is it not? For instance I have a cool ranger bow set where the bow is made of tree branches. I bought it hoping to make it functional in Poser via the DSON crappy thingy. i never got it to work. I would love to be able to get it to work in Poser. Also have a cool cloth collar/off shoulder fantasy top I got with the same high hope which ended in same result. I at least got my money back for that just barely. But would have loved to have that work in Poser too. THat is not even including all the environments and sets created by long standing Poser vendors now migrating to the DAZ side. Just sucks. :(

Some of the new Furries characters are nice but I still stuck in the past as in Mythological anthro such as Centaur, Minotaur, Satyr, Wargs, Werewolf, Naga to name a few. I love all the morphs packs available at philosophers egg for the mil4 figures. He has done a real nice job creating these anthro options for these figures and i recommend them highly especially if you like pig, and goat and elephant and dog and dragon and well the lost goes on a bit and they are available for both V4M4 and K4 to keep the family playing together. I used to play with the lemurtek characters and still have a few in my runtime but the joints were real bad for the ones I have unless work was done to them to make them better not worth the effort in my opinion. If more care was used in making them with better joints I would have given them higher points. I would love to see all those sets available again but made to be used in newer versions of Poser and to be able to stand side by side with the sensibilities and character builds of today to look a bit more realisitic.

I didn't need images of her but morph/skin/character set. :)

Kalypso posted at 2:48PM Wed, 23 November 2016 - #4213607

I still use V4 for all the assets I've accumulated throughout the years and the ease with which I can work with her.   I don't find it hard to un-vickify her or give her expressions.   I spin dials, I move stuff around, I play with scaling and that's part of the fun!  The addons like Perfect Victoria, Real arms, and many other morph resources make it easy for me to pose and morph her.   I don't doubt Vicki 7 will be much better but as a hobbyist for the past 16 years I figure I don't need to spend more money when I still haven't used over 50% of what I've bought for her not to mention what I haven't even installed yet.

 

Wow dear really nice use of V4. I also feel what you say about still not having used 50% of what you got for her....feel the same way and may never use all the Poser stuff in general I have accumulated in hat is left of my frelling life either. :)

RobZhena posted at 2:35PM Wed, 23 November 2016 - #4223201

Hmm. Second pic.

Nice seeing these figures together. But you did forget the P5 Judy who though ugly out of the box and went to pieces when extreme poses were use---same as pretty much all of the from the past had a few really nice 3rd party morphs and textures available for her in her day! Personally I went from V2 right to V4 and though i got a lot of V3 stuff never did like those damn line backer shoulders and collar nasties so never really used her......jeesh what a frelling waste of money. did someone say $2000 invested......invested way more than that over the poser years since P4.

Netherworks posted at 2:27PM Wed, 23 November 2016 - #4288414

Is the WM version still available, post RDNA shutting down? If so (and we don't have one yet at Renderosity), I'd like to suggest a sticky with links to essential content, be they offsite or not, in the name of community.

Still available at RDNA (they are still open BTW and have a big sale trying to sell whatever was NOT migrated to DAZ which I just do not understand I loved that site) and Renderotica and I think I did see a version of her here as well when it first came out.

rokket posted at 2:12PM Wed, 23 November 2016 - #4290097

thoennes posted at 2:51AM Tue, 15 November 2016 - #4288431

Netherworks posted at 8:59AM Tue, 01 November 2016 - #4288414

Is the WM version still available, post RDNA shutting down? If so (and we don't have one yet at Renderosity), I'd like to suggest a sticky with links to essential content, be they offsite or not, in the name of community.

Here? http://www.runtimedna.com/WMV4.html

Just did this with her, after being away from the whole CGI thing for quite a bit (since Poser11 was released). No post work at all. While I can't say that I'm entirely happy with the "state of things" in poser-ville I continue to be super happy with v4wm

The glossiness in her eyes makes it look like she's on the verge of crying. That's a really powerful message considering what this thread is about.

I got the V4WM when it was first released...well.......EVRYWHERE!....and hav not used her ye because i am still not sure if i can include all my custom morphs I use all the time form my plain ole V4/S4/G4/A4 Goulash figures. Love to spin dials and create as many possible figures as I can it seems but not sure i can do that for V4WM. Using her do you use any of the commercially available body adjust/enhance/fix morphs available like Meipei's Perfect series for instance or Posermatic's beautiful breast enhancers and pose morphs or even Erogenesis' LaliBits? If I know those morphs especially as well as all the clothes and shoes and accessories i have invested in for V4 will work for V4WM I will put her in the Runtime quick as a bee! I know too that AerySoul or whatever they called themselves when still at RDNA did a really nice quasi V4WM version for V4 called Alice something and though i have her too I have not used her either......god there must be something wrong with me!

wow dis thread is looooong! so my two bits:

1. investment.....too heavily invested in body fix morphs, pose morphs, hair, clothes props and accessories and skins
2. support for her was longer term than the newer daz figures who keep updating their figures every year it seems and do not seem to want to allow third party vendors to catch up and offer the same collection of add-ons that have gathered for V4.
3. I see what happened to Antonia Polygon, started as a Poserverse group project and taken up by RDNA and now....what?.....ABANDONED with the closing of RDNA! I think the fact V4 has been around so long is the appeal of the community and the support of the community. All others including the out of the box Poser figures that have come out and still do come out are not as nice looking out of the box (at least i have seen very few characters or renders of these newer girls that look as nice as V4 did and still do). If the D/S figures played nice in Poser w/o that damn DSON crap I would probably have invested. I see a lot of nice renders with those figures and i love the unimesh creature options that they have offered as builds for the figures. but still too much of heavy re-investment for dis guy to trip over. The Mil 4 figures will be the last i will buy i think.

EClark1894 posted at 12:56PM Wed, 23 November 2016 - #4289335

My first morphing attempt with Pauline. Yeah, I know it looks nothing like Jolie. And no I don't know what's up with the hair.

Ok looks nice but who do e compare it to in the real world. THe hair? I get all kinds of sheitz like that. I usually have to get rid of back facing polygons or not render it in any of the advanced render options like Firefly, etc. A lot of the older Poser stuff winds up with that kind of noise on it. Some of it can be fixed by the vendor(s) but a lot of it goes into the waste bin of you are no longer working in older versions of Poser it may have been originally made for. So you are using Poser figures and not any of the Millenium figures to create these characters?

I think the question was set forth so the person posting the thread could get a consensus so he/she can try to make a character that can be compared to the real thing to test their ability t creating characters. If not then I want a: Catherine Zeta Jones (before she married that idiot considered Hollywood royalty). Rachael Ward, Rachael McClish (the body builder), Barbra Eden, Rachel Weisz (Daniel Craigs wife), Maureen O,Hara, Capucine, Claudia Cardinale, Sofia Loren (young), Raquel Welch (young), Elke Sommer, ......on and on and on............

What I really want and NEED is a tool that will allow me to open/import D/S environments, props and hair products so I can use in Poser. As much as it is nice being able to work with the G3 figures this way and appreciated, one of the reasons I have not gotten any of them is the new re-investment in yet another figure. I just want product line of the same quality created for D/S now as good as it is for Poser. All the set and environment and prop and hair creators seem to be migrating to D/S functionality and when i have asked if it can also be made for Poser users I am told to MOVE ON! Well and good for them but not so for those of use so heavily invested in Poser tech as well as the stuff for it. I am sure this tool does not solve that problem....does it?

Oh Yah! That was the one I remember....hell even the name.....same as in the movie. Wonder what skin was used for it?

BTW thanks dear!

Hi

Thanks. It was of course not the character i was looking for, the one I was remembering looked much more like Natalie than your lead. but I did look through Mihrelle's store and put it in my book marks because she has a lot of other famous people avatars for future use. Again thanks.

LOL If he is a "Holy Man" I can see feeling that. It goes like this: "Life is all about dying, and death is all about eternal life"

With a mind set like that driving you it is clear to understand why he thinks that way.

DreaminGirl posted at 10:51AM Thu, 03 November 2016 - #4288711

The best Seven resemblance I have seen is a morph by Malewenn for Dawn, called Elisa. For sale at HW. Not for V4, but maybe you would want to try Dawn at some point.

Hi

Though I have Dawn basic free download and the free updated version I did not install her. I prefer to just keep working with V4....I have a huge investment in morphs and textures for her and do not want to invest in another figure. I think I am done investing and re-investing in Poser stuff anyway. It took DAZ ending support for Poser to do that. Except for the occasional set or environment , animal or creature, I avoid spending more money on human figures and accessories.