Welcome back bone, its good too see ya round.

Stacey as you said, Im no lawyer either, lol, although they are not far from the sith......

Just so you know, my question/post comes from a discussion I was having with someone else, in wich I took your view as well. 

Thanks for settling a long running "arguement" for me. LOL I stand corrected, and now, so will my friend.

As for the "rules" not being fair, or not clear.

Her dark majesty , queen jumpstartme2, a Goddess among the sith, has decreed to me, that in the future all the rules are to be explicit, clear, and enforced across the board without exception. As it's never wise to cross her dark majesty I am quite sure this will be the case in the future.

Stacey,

Thanks for the prompt reply. It is my understanding it doesn't nessicarily have too be called a contract to be one.

It's my understanding, and of course this is based upon law in another state, but often times its the same no matter what state you are in, (you'd have to check for the Great State of Tennessee) but any "agreement" in wich aeither both or one party is required too sign stating they agree too, and will abide by the terms in said agreement, then legally, under the law, it is considered as a contract.

Even if, the agreement statement, or the terms themselves do not specifically state within the "agreement" that it is or is not a contract.

Quote - Just for reference, this is the "right to free speech" that people keep talking about:

Quote - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

(Emphasis is mine.)

Note that this amendment to the U.S constitution does not, in itself guarantee anybody the right to do something, but rather restricts the government from prohibiting it. Also, please note that this right to free speech does not say anything about anyone being provided a free soapbox from which to speak their piece.

Renderosity has graciously provided us with a soapbox, but has implemented rules limiting how we may use it, which is their right. By denying anyone usage of the soapbox, they are in no way abridging anyone's "right to free speech". This is more a case of "you can't talk that way in my house, go outside". The U.S. government will, by constitutional law, not stop you from expressing your opinions in a peacable manner. But Renderosity is under no obligation, legal or otherwise, to provide us with a place to do so. And they are completely within their rights to, arbitrarily even, deny access to this forum. It is quite legal for them to make up a rule restricting the use of their private property (yes, this web site is private property, deal with it) and is not in violation of the laws of Tennessee, the United States, or the constitution of either governing body.

 When Renderosity asks that you "agree" to that TOS, and you click that little "I agree" option you are electronicaly signing a legal agreement between you, and Renderosity. 

Wich means that the TOS legally is a contract between you the member and Renderosity. 

As I have already pointed out, for some of us, "oldtimers" when we electronically "signed" that TOS agreement, there was not a clause that allowed for changing the TOS at all whatsoever. 

At that time the TOS here, did not adress that particular issue at all in fact. 

As there was no clause that allowed for changing of the TOS at the time some of us  electronically signed the TOS, legally any changes to that contract (TOS agreement)would have too be approved or "agreed" too by both party's to the original agreement for it to be binding upon one party or the other.

Otherwise the original signed agreement applies.

Let me give you an exmaple:

You sign a contract to rent an apartment. (TOS)

In this lease it says the landlord will do A, B, and C. The lease you sign makes no provision for changing any part of the lease whatsoever.

Later on, six months into the lease, the landlord decides he wants too change parts of the lease, so that in addition too A, B, and C.  you must also now do D,E,and F.

So the landlord draws up a new rental agreement, in wich he inserts a clause that allows him/her too change the lease, wich was not in the original lease, and further making changes too A, B, and C requiring you too now do D, E, and F.  He/she posts the new "rules" in the lease in the hallway.

Guess what, 

Unless the tennant, were to voluntarily agree to those changes they can ignore them all they want too. And the landlord, legally cannot evict them for it either. In fact, if the landlord even tried too, the landlord could be sued.

Becaue, legally that is a new contract, and the tennant is not under any obligation to sign a new contract either unless, and untill, their original lease expires.

Since legally it is a contract, It is the same with the TOS here.

Private business or private citizen,  once you sign a contract with someone, you cannot after the fact go back and change it unless the other party agrees to the changes or, there is a clause in the contract that allows you too do so.

Sorry I saw this a little late, Marque I will certainly pray for your daughter, mind if I put your family and daughter on our prayer chain at church?

Its not wise too underestimate the power of the dark side.

Muahahahah Muahahahah Muahahahaha

Quote - aikofan12

This issue has been resolved with the banned member in question so I'm not sure of your intent here. But if the person in question has any concerns they are welcome to email admin@renderosity.com otherwise I consider this matter closed as we will not be discussing this members issues with you.

 

Sincerely

Stacey

Yesss, yesss,  yes, thats it! Embrace your hate and anger, use them, they will make you strong in the dark side.

muahahaha muahahaha muahahaha.

Question, what exactly constitutes a clone account?

Before the name change service came to be, I wanted to change my username, and had to create a new account to do so, as I was told by the staff that it wasn't possible too change my username, or too move my gallery over to a new account.

So I had no choice but to create a new account, take everything down, from the previous account and then upload it, one image per day.

As has been pointed out, if someone doesnt want too pay to change their username, they can just create a whole new account.

And now that there is a pay for name change service, if you create another account, because you don't like your previous username, and want another one, is the member going to be accused of having a clone account and be sanctioned..................?

Quote - Lucie, wait till you see what's next... (oops, did I say that out load)

"Sorry Rendo"

Yessss wait, wait untill we the Sith! Have taken over.

Muahahahaha

Quote - It's starting to creep in isn't it? First of all we have to pay to upload more than one image per day... very good reasoned argument given for the move. Now it's having to pay for this 'new service', again, a viable reason is given to explain it. Next we will have to pay for some other minor service and then another. Eventualy, a package will be offered giving all these services for a small set fee. This becomes a membership fee and, as we becomes used to it, the fee starts to go up each year.

Now ask yourself this. Am i just being cynical... or prophetic?

While I am hesitant to call you a prophet per se' you sure have nailed that one.

Quote - We understand that $24.95 to change your username at Renderosity may seem like a lot. However, there were several factors taken into account before setting this as a service and determining what it would cost.

The first consideration was the fact that we have almost half a million users on our site and it is a manual process to change user names. Because the process is not automated, there is administrative time that will be involved in processing each request.

The price was set to cover our costs and serve as a mild deterrent so that people will not abuse the service. Yes, people can create a new account for nothing. However, the new account will not have any of their gallery images, Free Stuff, Tutorials, blogs, SiteMails, LinkShare, purchase history, etc. This service will carry that valuable data with it. 

Because we are a community built on relationships that are connected with a username, we do think it is important that members take care when choosing a name or changing their names.

Because we are a community built on relationships that are connected with a username, we do think it is important that members take care when choosing a name or changing their names.

Wait a minute, I asked and asked again to change my user nic, and was told repeatedly that it couldn't be done. That I'd still lose my gallery if I changed my user nic. Now you tell me that it was infact possible too change my username, but that If I want too I have too pay 25.00 bucks to do so?

Get real.

Another peed off customer.