Hmmm... for me, I would care for, in order: 1) more realistic posing -- joint, muscle movement when sitting, bending, etc. This is probably not a DAZ issue as much as a CL issue (or both). I know this is a hard one to work, so I'm not expecting it anytime soon. I'm already happy with what we get for the money! 2) Much more detailed eyes, lids, etc... this is a big differentiator between Vicky II and say, the girl from Final Fantasy. Hard to make very realistic eyes.. those folds and stuff would be awesome. That's about it... CL and DAZ have given me everything else I could ask for at the moment :)

LB's words are fluid like mercury, and puzzling as a chinese-box, but altogether fun to read.

FryeSpirty - I'm glad to see at least ONE person who sees the proportional problems with the Posette figure. I'm making more of this matter than need be since the Vicky figures can be used in P5, but it just urked me is all :)

Hmmm, I honestly fail to see how you can look at that demo render of the P5 girl and rate it a more realistic or proportionally correct model of the human figure. I'm not implying at all that better means more sexy... I just mean there are symmetries and lines and proportions that are just 'right'. It's a mute point, P5 is going with Posette it seems, and it matters not since V2 is still usable in P5. I just find it odd that a few people remarked how they find the new P5 girl very nice, since her proportions go against what my artistic feeling tells me is correct. If you feel that Posette can be posed, morphed, etc to create the same range as V2 then I hope you are right! :) Orio - I agree Posette 5 may better represent the average everyday person in terms of sheer beauty, but aside from subjective likes or dislikes, ask an artist trained in the human form, or a sculptor, and see which they find more realistic proportionally. But life is full of differences in what people think is pleasing -- purely objectively I'd have to go with V2 over Posette anyday. Im biased in the sense that I use Poser to strive for the utmost in realism in my renders, imperfections and all, but the human eye can sense what is right and wrong in proportions aside from the supposed artistic value. A good example is the girl from the final fantasy movie, she is by no means made to look like a model with perfect figure, however, her proportions 'seem' right to the eye and so, despite her purposeful average appearance, she looks 'right' and natural and realistic (and I dont mean all the fancy renderings of her.. look at a basic one of her... the bikini shot on rottentomato.com for example). Anyhow -- i've rambled terribly!! :)

I agree, generic is good.. however, it also has to be good base to start with.. one that will accept good tweaks. I've never seen a rendering of Posette I truly liked in terms of the figure seeming realistic... granted many were well, done artistically, etc. In anycase, it would seem that she would accept posette clothing which is ok, I suppose, tho most of my stock I've bought from DAZ for the Vicky series.

Hmmm.... guys/gals, is it me, or does Vicki II look a great deal better than this latest figure... honestly, not trying to be a naysayer, but really this looks very very similar to Posette, who was never close to Vicki II's natural form in my opinion. The hands are too small and the nose and mouth aren't right...the body itself is ok tho. To me, V2 looked like DAZ digitized a real person, whereas Posette looked like a well-done, tho hand crafted artistic version of a human. Placed side by side, as I have, V2 outshines Posette by a large leap in terms of being a 'realistic' looking human form. hmmm... luckily we can still use Vicki II with Poser 5. I know these are early shots, but I guess CL went with the Posette look vice the DAZ Vicki II form. I'm not sure why, as Vicki II was very well done in my opinion. What was the reason anyhow? Just curious... maybe this figure will be more poseable... anyhow, these are just my opinions, but Im afraid I can't buy into everyone else's hype over this latest full-figure. To me, it's a step down from the already well-done V2. In anycase, I'm still gonna buy P5 with the new renderer and maybe enough of us can get some nice work done with the new hair and clothing options. I'm not gonna comment on the hair on these demo pics cuz my mom told me not to say anything if you can't say anything good ;) Seriously tho, Im sure the new dynamic hair will be great once enough us get to master it! Don't bash me...these are just my current feelings.

Thanks Coop for the reply.. I will keep my eye out for a URL.. I'm eagerly awaiting all Poser 5 info as is everyone :) I did think the Gallery pics were previous versions... and like Coop said... they are great examples of work done with previous versions of Poser.

The little movie file of the cloth animation in Poser 5 looks great!! Can't wait! The stand hair is my biggest thing I look forward, too, tho I know it will take a lot of tinkering to get good looking results... but hey, thats what makes art and hobbies fun!!

Umm... but what does it have to do with Poser ? It doesn't provide any 'posing' capabilities..it's a renderer/animator like 3DS Max is. Sure, people may want to use for rendering a final scene, but that's hardly the selling point for Poser.

Never a good idea to have one tool try to assume the job of other tools that do that solely. You end with a compromise that weakens the overall product. If Poser continues to improve its 3D posing and rendering of 3D people, then we're all better off...so far, they've done a great job! I look forward to version 5.0. Gimme particle hair. ;)

Vickie 2 is a vast enhancement to Vickie and in my opinion is the best overall model. It's very realistic, decently posable, has many morphs, and uses a large array of clothings, props, hair, etc. The textures from StephyZZ etc for it are outstanding. I'm very pleased with Vickie 2.

Not sure what you mean by 'implementing images on programs'. Do you mean you wish to display images that were created using Poser in one of those programming languages? If so, it's very simple to do so in C++ and Java. Of course you would not be controlling Poser from those, rather, just displaying bitmap images that created using Poser. In anycase, if this is what you want let me know. -Jeff

I understand your point, EA. Often I've noticed some suspiciously young looking renders on here..particularly the angels and stuff...BUT, I'm not gonna judge anyone unless its obviously crude. Most of the stuff is not graphic and is simply nude pics of young looking girls. It's not illegal to depict young girls (of any age) -- but it is illegal to depict young girls (rendered or not) in sexually provocative poses.

great job! I will definately buy this when it comes out.. i got most of your other stuff and its all top-notch. One thing with hair that bugs me is where it meets the scalp is always too harsh... anyway to soften that part up -- some prop or separate piece that will fade the hair into scalp a little smoother ?? in anycase.. good work

Sometimes, among the copies of copies, the blandest of bland, something striking comes out. Granted it's few and far between but that's ok. As a community, Renderosity can't be beat, and with some top-notch artists, creative minds, and lots of good, friendly hobbyists.