Kitty If you talk to some of the merchants we know, they will say the same thing... money talks... they are not going to look at a product from one of there top sellers in the same way we are. It was proved a while ago with the offensive nameing of some of his products. Its just not worth it...

ok, ask any merchant what they are allowed to produce. Do you see anything like this for the GIRL here? no, why because she was felt to be underage. Even though she is a 'Toon' therefore she should not be touched with 'embelishments' or certain types of 'Lingerie'. Although you will find a certain merchant doing 'Lingerie' for her, and i know some merchants are not pleased about it. Now if the GIRL is not to be touched because she's 'underage' then what's happening here?? If you want to make an adult character then use Vicky.

well it's 9:45pm in the UK.......

wow you wouldn't believe this, but this is the first time in quite a while since i've been to the Vue forum and i can answer your question straight away :) I've just come from http://www.e-onsoftware.com/Order/ProductList.php?sid=8a3d6c923cc343afa913c32a13877700&l=1&producttypeid=33 And it seems yes you can upgrade from 4 to 5 i was just looking at the costing to do the same myself. David

Lordfox, why does all this happen when i've gone to bed :) lets hope from what has been said here that this stupid ban on you is lifted because it seems to be personal and not profesional. There does seem to be a different field to play in for different merchants, some merchants have a lush, flat green playing field, others are shoved out into a just ploughed field which is full of potholes to trip up in and is rough going. Take care Piglet

ynsaen, i know what this is about, i have been in contact with a few individuals who have expressed their dissapointment about what has happened and how they feel they have been treated here. I have been a member here for quite some time, but if you look back you will find i have hardly posted, i have come to the conclusion it is not worth saying anything because the 'powers that be' don't want to listen to 'us' they only want to listen to a few 'exclusive friends' it doesn't matter what their 'friends' do but when it is one of 'us'.... well just look out... I know one person has been 'kicked out' because of this, which i find disturbing. I'm a man and i find some of the 'termanology' offensive towards women, so in this regard you have my full support. Piglet

The arms seem to be caught by a similar problem either scaling or stretching affects the wrist area and seems to push it sideways. The weird thing is I just tried it and the upper arm seemed to affect the wrist more. Im not too sure what the problem is though. Poserpig

Thank you Reba for your quick responce, she's downloading now (i hope) and i wish you and everyone else at Daz a happy Holiday as well Again Thank you David :)

Thanks Martian Ho Hum David

could be worse, we could be talking about the cricket David

Hi Mac 13.22 seems quite good for P & P, so 167.11 all in seems a good price on par with what America is paying. Still a bit out of reach for me at the moment been out of work for a while now so money is tight, and been ill doesnt help either. Sorry Ive been quite rough recently so I could have worded both comments better, I apologise if Ive trodden on anybodys toes, I didnt mean too. Youre having it delivered to Scotland first? Hmmmm who do you trust least? Italian mail or Postman Pat? David

Mac, If you actually look at my post you will see someones web site mentioned twice, I am NOT attacking Curious Labs at all, Curious Labs seems to have the price right for the exchange rate. I was responding to the fact that the initial thread was about the cost of Poser 5 from www.upgrades.co.uk and the fact that it is the distributor in the UK, if anybody was to go to THEM they will be paying well over the odds against Curious Labs price. What I am trying to do is warn people about the pricing policies in the UK from companies like www.upgrades.co.uk. I was NOT attacking Curious Labs so how you came to that I dont know. We are just being ripped off for software over here and have been for a long time. What I would like to know is the cost of shipping rates from Curious Labs? David

Umm I would advise you to look again at the price of the upgrade from P4 to P5 http://www.upgrades.co.uk Poser 5 Upgrade (from Poser 4) Win Only GBP 179.99 Delivery Charge GBP 10.00 VAT GBP 33.25 OrderTotal GBP 223.24 At that price there is no way I can afford it, Im out of work and ill, and that price has just put me out of the Poser upgrade league. I thought the price would be competitive Curious Labs price $179 - Poser 4 Mac or Win to Poser 5 Win BUT at Curious Labs site Poser 5 Upgrade Poser 4 Win 129.00 http://www.upgrades.co.uk UK Price Poser 5 Upgrade (from Poser 4) Win Only GBP 179.99 As I said in a post a while ago, the $ sign taken off and the sign put in Oh well it seems Im going to have to keep with Poser 4. Either that or move to America i would have loved to get hold of it though David

Is it Mac or PC? i bet it's PC only, or Mac users will have to wait a long time! ha! typical!

If people quote the cost of shipping ect as the reason for the major price hike, then how many of you remember the Psion Series 5. This was designed and made in the UK, it was shipped over to America for sale, but you could go to America and buy it for less than what you could over here, People were even ordering it from America and paying for postage vat ect and it still worked out cheaper. It seems with software to be a similar situation, how many times do we see the price in pounds to be the same as dollars i.e. $100 becomes 100. Whats the answer? I wish I knew David