I'll just pop back to address something that jura said earlier...

"If Poser and DS is budget rendering SW,why you using? Or why you rather don't not build yours own base figure ?"

Poser and DS are budget software. There's nothing wrong with this. Why? Because I love Poser, It was my introduction to 3d. I enjoy making stuff for and with Poser and I've spent a great deal of time learning how to use its less than obvious features. Poser is incredibly deep once you strip away all of the surface make art button aspects and take a look inside its files, the set up room, the cloth room, etc. Kinda like why Wings is my favorite modeler even though I have software that's more fancy (as box modeler Wings will give any other modeler a run for its money, modo included). I have made my own figures, although I don't think robots or tentacled creepy crawlies or articulated plants would look as good bent over a couch as V4 can (not to mention that the idea of trying to model as well and rig something even remotely sophisticated as V4 on ones own is absurd, like Joe said no need to reinvent the wheel. Nice to know how to put some new rims on though. 

OK, been fun trying to be conversational. Going to bail, too much drift herebouts.

Nowhere in my above statement did I say that Poser was better than DS because of documentation superiority. Daz needs to have accurate and up to date documentation for their software, bottom line. Yes, I go to online forums and visit the CarraraCafe to keep abreast of things... the fact that Daz is incapable of providing documentation for their software is just straight up bizarre.

Daz seriously needs to work on their documentation ZeVo. It's disgraceful.

Also letting wonderful apps like Bryce, Carrara, and Hex flounder is another point of contention. These things have nothing to do with any SM/Daz back and forth.

Edit: Ok, they've done some things with Carrara... unfortunately the documentation of these new features is incomplete. It's really irritating.

Agree with what you said there, joepublic... especially the model stuff which doesn't exist. Although most things in art have already been done there's still plenty of room for personal interpretation, which is what I think you actually mean. 

@Jura, yes I have Arduino's yV4wg. And PoseidenTechs misty, and KarinaVag, and RajDarj's GSpot. Lol. Funny because I don't do to much pin up Posering and have never made any pornographic (in a conventional sense) Poser imagery. I used to just collect these things because of weirdness factor and just in case I ever felt like exploring that kind of 3d imagery.

As far as yV4wg, that morph and prop set is definitely showing it's age... the included textures are too low res and have way too much burnt in specular. The morph itself has a large displaced crease around the waist and alot of crumpling around the Gen crease area. Saying that the included Gen prop is rudimentary is a kindness. You would be much better off, if you don't want to use Lali, trying out the Karina prop (free) over at shareCG.

http://www.sharecg.com/v/42779/browse/5/3D-Model/A-new-genital-prop-for-V4-A4-G4-S4-L3

Of course if detail isn't called for Arduino's prop is fine, it's just the accompanying morphs that have issues IMHO. (Which can be fixed easily, and I am wondering why arduino did not, even after updating the product these issues are still present. They were just worse before the update).

Probably skimming around the edges of being obnoxious again but, one of the most irritating aspects of the Poser user base is the pervasive mentality that everything needs to be provided for you. It's like these pre made figures are some magical things. While it's nice to have most issues resolved for you with a paid product, and it's fair that a product should live up to consumer expectations, at the end of the day these are simply 3d models. Something not working as you like? Nothing is stopping you from fixing it yourself. Can't afford Zbrush, or Max, or modo? Blender and Wings are free.

Poser and DS are budget rendering and character animation suites with an emphasis on purchased pre made content. They're not art automation softwares.

Yes, true... but I know how to model and own zbrush and a couple other modelers. I'm not constrained by the need to have everything provided for me. Like I said, for me, as far as fixes go, Lali is a good start for jcm's... Not to mention all of the other morphs and features the .cr2 has.

Hey, Hey, Hey! Na Na Na gonna have a good time!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=au5cUpUT2ig

Forget to mention Sabbath in that Last bit...

Gerswin's nice... to each their own shall be the whole of the law.

I'm a dopesmoker.

Yay I got my first Rendo warning notification (and my last)!

http://youtu.be/2-FjO3E8K-E

XXX, didn't forget the stones... they're one of my favorite Gettin' Drunk in a Dive Bar juke bands. Well them, the Misfits, and early Thrash bands.

http://www.posetteforever.com/

V4 Erogenesis' Lali .cr2 with morphs ++ and A4 is the figure set up I use for any kind of sexy pin up characters... as far as WM or fixes, Lali's jcm's are fine for a starter (they don't behave well with X&M's fixes though) and if that's still not enough I just export a welded version of the final pose and tweak in a modeler. Really, other than from a collector standpoint and experimentation, I'm not seeing a serious replacement for that set up anywhere in the Poser Native Figure realm.

ooops, let me fix that 

And now a picture of a Sexy Goth Teen. Lol.

I take offense to the disparaging comments directed at four mop tops from England going on in this thread.