its show n tell time

this is some seriously good info guys

i did some further testing

bryce 6.1 sees it just fine, but i couldn't manipulate the mesh @ all, i tried ungrouping and regrouping and it just wouldn't really allow for anything beyond transition or posing (rotate, translate, scale). I remember when i had bryce 3 back in the day and it had modeling capabilities, did they hide that or get rid of it? (similiar to truespace, grab a vertex or polygon and drag it)
It really burned my biscuits that it worked(rendered), and im not real sure why. I did learn the difference between normal, positive and negative, so i did learn something

it also appeared fine in dazstudio, but i can't stand that program, and refuse to use it.

in carrara 5 pro however, the missing polygons were there but the mesh was coloured light blue, where the missing polygons were was dark blue. It had a little tick mark under 'smart'. I tried exporting it from here about 5-6 times, doing a mathmatical elimination of variables based on the export options. None worked.

I haven't tried vue 6 pro yet, i expect it would b similar to bryce. i had a tank (mobloc) that had the issue of exploding, vue saw it fine, renderend it fine but poser loaded it all jacked up.

i also use propview, so i can see the mesh, and all the negative i experienced in poser was visible in propview. which furthers the model is built in a wanky way, and not simply one piece of software with a weak 3ds importer, or the operator's ignorance on the importance and relevance over a half dozen check marks involving the import dialog, ;-)
Granted, my ignorance has a big part in it, but that's why we learn

My next hope is maybe a demo of 3dsmax and it allowing me to export these. Which I think I have done before years ago. When yer downloading freebies and not paying attention, and ya have a handful of max files with cool names. The curiosity is simply too much...

Thank u all fer the input thus far and any who have any other insight, it is massively appreciated.
I also noticed a program called polytrans (400.00 US) which solidified that I'm not alone, but a converter in that price range is way out there as a 'not gonna happen'. I was mad enough to drop 20 bux if necessary, but that's all the convenience is worth. Learning this will be worth way more

Sort of off topic question, what vid cards are good nowadays? My roomate ordered a new system (amd 6000+/ 2gigz ram) but she left the integrated video (geforce 7050pv; nvidia 630a) as she isn't a 3d freak like me. The board has a pciEx16 slot. And based on just the little I knew (sys requirments for the software I have) I was thinking a geforce 9300gts (512mb ram). Am I going the wrong way?

mamabobbijo 'the elements of life' 3 pts
weezerhopw 2 pts
thunderstone 'the four elements' 1pt

it might not be apparent but a resolution I made was to be more a part of the community, and less a lurker. thus far, definitely the right step, winning or no, being a part of something

hope i have more time for feb, but I gotta mention www.fawm.org, it's nanowrimo for musicians and well, needs to be mentioned :-)

The visible light spectrum is 7 colours, like a scale, I started with red (fire) and went around clockwise. funny coinky.dink green exists between yellow (air) and blue (water).

since this challenge is closing before I can get the real work done, a couple things might not be apparent.
Orange is air and fire, and to me that meant orange sandy desert.
Indigo is where earth and water meet and is missing the underwater mountain ranges blending into a coral reef.
One thing is definitely missing from the original concept, I wanted the infinity symbol broken into 4 puzzle pieces that each hand would hold, implying only thru unity can infinity be attained, reiterating the cyclic nature as well. But in smudging in the infinity symbol, it took the shape of an owl, so I pushed that in a little bit, as that works well if not better.

The astrological symbols apropos to each element were also imagined much cooler looking.
It's really hard for me to do godrays with paint shop pro, and the whole thing was supposed to be superimposed over a nightsky starscape...

"So, I'm on a giant ship that can make anything, full of cryo-denizens from many worlds and you woke me up because..."

"The science pilot had an interest in one of the forbidden worlds and his curiosity was greater than his ethics and he died from exposure to an element which was the reason for the planet being forbidden in the first place." she retorted almost mimicking his accent, which he might have thought was mockery, but realized it was part of her speech acclamation AI.

"I can never go home can I?"

"No, if the science pilots race discovered what happened, they would put this ship into a singularity, I would suggest not visiting any of the stars I have marked red in the navigation system" she finished with a faint yet determinable amount of care, the acclamation program moving at an exponential rate at this point.

Everyone who wants should definitely feel the freedom to

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2761965

I'm not real forum savvy, I know if I were coding this in an html page it would be
Join the Fun

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"A person of your science" began the soft digital stream of her voice, "Michio Kaku, detailed the possibility of life outside your sphere of perspective"

Did she notice his hands gripping the chair tigher now?

"Quantum physics then..." he felt forced to respond, and being from the UK did so.

"Some people go this way...and some people go that way..." puncuated by what could only really be described as a digital telephone ring, stuttered in some programs idea of laughing.

green light in a airplane over the country of Funjamma

"Go, go go!"

'..............'

"If you want, no pressure..."

cheers and rumblings of many happy people jumping out of said plane

just soaks up the info

wow...

Ok, and liked yer poem.

Best wishes of success!

I wouldn't know how to lock a thread if someone had a gun pointed @ my head.

Beauty and the Beast

You stole my heart
Reason and logic were removed
The bit in my mouth, the saddle on my back
all made sense @ the time

I carried us both as far as I could
Until cannabilizing myself in a  one way relationship
Broke the best parts you liked in me, and you found another so quickly
I wish I had known

I have a question, do we know what Febz challenge is gonna be? I just learned of this and well...uh...ack! the pressure! I'll try though...

I second making it official and I don't care for valentine's or love.

the reason is this: The art we create no matter what medium is a static marker of the path that we have walked, for good or ill, so that we never forget from whence we come...

There is also the purgative nature, that we vent out what is inside and move forward and grow, hopefully better than before...

Freedom 4 all, no matter what
stands on a hill with a flag in the wind

movie quote: KPax "Every living creature knows the difference between right and wrong..."