Marty, mad props. that was so polite and mature and understanding i must say im in awe ;) thank you for not takin any of this personally!!

yes well im still sorry, im a pretty vulgar person actually and tho i try to be on my best behavior, i slip up a lot. its also hard to always remember that what never offends me or those im around can easily offend others who find it unacceptable. bad habits are hard to shake. and im not used to ANYONE i know finding the word "twat" remotely offensive, so im sorry if i forget to pay attention all the time. and yeah vulgar language vs pornographic material is not the issue here. both are offensive, we all admmit that. just please try not to take things so personally.

lol VERY good point, i meant acceptable as in its something thats always out there, people always do it, its all over TV..acceptable isnt the word.. but cussing is certainly more tolerated, esp publicly. there arent any laws or restirctions made for the protection, or whatever, of others against cussing like their are restrictions on viewing pornographic material. so thats what i was getting at. and that i personally think cussing is more overlookable, lol if thats a word, than publicly showing pictures of naughty bits with THINGS! lol... and i also know better than to go out publicly and start swearing at everyone. i know its something that would offend a lot of people, so i know better. i know where to draw a line. ;) this thread came about cuz we think the lines here are getting a bit fuzzy perhaps? i just dont see why if promo images that you NEED to have in order for your product to sell are not allowed to be seen here, then why is the product up anyway? i see why people would want items liek that, i understand the demand, but i also know that if i personally was ever gonna sell something liek that id do it at rotica where i know i wont be offending anyone and i know i can show whatever promos i want however i want, without having to worry about offense or forum posts. that to me is just common sense and respect to this community and their general opinions on the matter, if i may say that without sounding way harsh.

This idea that anyone is going to, or should have to agree with someone else's idea is truly a dead horse. NObunny is saying that. play nice kids.

And let's remember also, it's not like we are talking about a photograph! why not? how different is it really? Even if that WAS considered art, cuz yes im implying that it isnt, its still not something that is labelled by the general majority of the world's population (not just us here at rosity) as acceptable. if it were so acceptable, and there wassnt anything wrong with showing it, then we'd be seeing spread twats all over the place. I dont recall seeing any accomplished artist displaying such. and yes as a personal opinion i find NOTHING artistic or innocent about it. just because you label something pornographic doesn't make it so... Its not him labelling this pornographic, its the fact that if you showed any one of those images to the average person THEY would as well. We all know what the majority of the world thinks about pictures of genetalia, whether you agree with it or not, this is still something thats not acceptable in any country ive seen. and i dont think it belongs here (apparently neither do a lot of others). i have to agree with that. especially after one reads the TOS in the galleries. Cuz yeah, as a personal opinion, which im entitled to w/o getting flamed, i dont think products like genital morphs belong at renderosity. i thought that was why we had rotica? #4. this is why, when a film has coarse language in it, its usually rated PG-13. if it has nudity, or suggestive/adult situations, its rated R. id like to think of renderosity as rated PG-13 with the nudity filter on, and R with it off... which is a happy medium. when a film has closeups of spread labia, its generally rated X or XXX. im hoping rosity doesnt go that route. this has been my point all along. exactly exactly exactly. Daz is SO PG-13, id even go so far as to say just PG. and they do just fine. I personally dont think rosity should ever be above an R rating. And again, whether you see this thing as acceptable to yourself or your family or not, the general public doesnt agree. you dont even see that in softcore porn. showing such pictures of genetalia, male or female, is hardcore. x rated. we all know a product like that wont sell if a potential buyer couldnt see how it actually looks right? well if a promo so unacceptable that the rosity admin would delete it, why should such an item be for sale here anyway? if its gonna sell, its gonna sell, no matter where you have it up. rotica has a store for these types of items, why do they need to be here, when you cant even show them in the promos, if you can sell them at a site that caters specifically to people who want to do that type of art? then no one is offended. no, i was making a point. you cant equate using the word fck to posting macro money-shots. you can turn on prime-time tv and hear the word fck a dozen times per show.. but you wont be seeing many zoom close-ups of spread labia now will you?. again my previous point. yeah cussing is somethign accepted by the general public, crotch shots are not and you all know it. whther you agree with it or not. "You don't seem to be particularly concerned about offending anyone else. " i constantly apologize in advance with the foreknowledge that people will take what i say the wrong way, and constantly attempt to explain and point out that im not attacking anyone in particular only the issue that i have strong feelings about. let me tell you guys something, i more than ANY of you know Gabe, his sarcasm, how he talks, and how incredibly easy it is to take things he says the wrong way. its taken me a while to get used to it and know better than to take things personally (lol and vice versa for me ;) And in every post hes ever made where he may have offended someone he IMMEDIATELY apologises even if its someone he may not even like. he doesnt want to be taken the wrong way any more than you guys do. his apologies before hand are just him explaining 'hey what im about to say you might take the wrong way, so please hear me out first cuz im not trying to attack anyone, just expressing an opinion'. so guys dont jump down his throat. he has a right to express an opinion, and didnt do anythign wrong in posting this thread. the point of this thread was NOT to chastise the creator or even to have it brought down, just to discuss the fact that it is up period. HA! that was probably my first and only post where i myself did not say fck once. ;)*

;) whew.

yeah no kiddin you can tell they are really serious when it comes to customer relations, its so reassuring!

enough!

Mehndi, keep your concerns and threats to yourself or in a another thread please, we are talking about a DAZ product here, anything else does not belong. please be respectful of everyone else commenting in this thread, and let us get back to it.

and now back to our scheduled programmin about this revised EULA... you guys saw Steve's post in the other thread yesterday sayin they were fixin a mistake in it. AMG said DAZ was revising the thing. Maybe that was all she was referring to?

i dont hate you for deleting anything, i said "deleting", i was under the impression, and told by others, that it was "quarantined". its still available to whatever chosen few.if you were protecting us, that would have gotten taken care of immediately not days after, and i would think we should have been told.... i dont give a fuck what your high school gossip forum talks about, bash gabe all you want, it gives more reason for people to make fun of the lot of you here and makes you look all the worse.... ugh please i asked you to drop this, thats not the issue and neither are you...if you want to continue this, do it personally, leave your comments outside this thread, they dont belong here, which is why im shutting up. drop it or get lost.

im sorry i dont see how i am defaming any damn thing??? im not gonna get into that fuckin thread again, the sweeping it under the carpet you call "deletion", or you, or the millions of others i see on your bored with your members always bashing someone else, YES including the man who sits beside me..this is netiher time or the place, and this thread was just fine till you got here, so if you please, lets all keep our opinions of Ms Mehndi and her forum to ourselves or to another thread please, so we can get on with our previous discussion in confidence that we wont be berated again for having our own opinions, to which we are always entitled. thank you.

oh yes we know all to well the true quality of posting that goes on THERE....

yeah!!! ;) i mean really! steamed up? heart attack? gimme a break. im just venting my opinion, DAZ wants to know if this is something they should continue you doin. so theres my opinion that im entitled to, consumer feedback. and why? Cuz the people of DAZ are so awesome that they are ALWAYS around her listening to what we say. i dont mean they sit here and watch the posts go by, they read them, hear them, think about them, and somethimes change their policies because of them, they value our opinions, and actually want to hear what we have to say. we dont like the silly thing, we wont buy it. you dont like this silly thread, dont bother posting in it.

good point Red_Baron, that Britney morph was certainly more recognizeable as far as a resemblance comparison from ths on to the real AMG, as was the Angelina Jolie morph, and as for DAZ stuff goes who can possibly contest the perfect resemblence of Mike and Dan? THAT was a clone. ;) lol very well done, completely recognizeable ;) if Daz could do that then, why cant they do that now? Im with Gremalkyn in that this may have been a rushed product. and i only say that cuz i wubs DAZ and ive seen them do better, whereas the way they are marketing this, this should be their best product ever. Find me one person who thinks it is. I would thank that each product a merchant releases should be much better than the last. always progressing. always getting better. and certainly never rushing anything and sacrificing that quality and reputation. and i realy hate sayin poo about this product, because i always have such respect for DAZ and for that i know for a bloody fact this could have been a lot better.