I am not going to engage in a "pissin'contest" with you, Blondie, I am just saying that I am being honest. You objected. Get over it.

...AND BLONDERELLA, DEAR....READ THE LAST LINE OF THAT POST...NO, HERE...I'LL COPY AND PASTE IT FOR YOU... The ones who don't act like that know who they are, and this was not meant for you.

You are absolutely right. There is such a thing as CONSTRUCTIVE critisism, and then there is just plain rude. I know that I have been rude and nasty and mean, but at least I did it in the right place, not beneath someones work. I never was good at saying things I don't mean. I have had my work critisised, and it didn't feel good. I went to that persons gallery and checked out their work, but then I later evaluated what they had said. I looked again at my work, and found value in their comments. It isn't the comment...its the WAY YOU DO IT!! I am NOT going to leave a mean comment like this: #I am surprised to see that mpre than 80% of the comments are from members who never had worked with Terragen. I think that you have a lot, a lot of friends.(BY THE WAY, I HAVE NEVER BUILT A HOUSE BUT I STILL ADMIRE F.L.WRIGHT) or like this: #hmm.. sorry but still this is DrOgaN's terragen work with your name on it. In terragen you changed the camera's position and rendered it. Your Poser/Photography/Fractal/Bryce friends voted for a Terragen render that is hardly your's. Marit should send a PM to DrOgaN and tell him "What an atmosphere, what a light.. One big WOW!" That is just a single example. It may be noted that out of 151 comments, the two negative ones were from the T community. Go and look! http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=810694&Start=1&Artist=tony%5Fbr22&ByArtist=Yes

Let me just say that this is NOT a discussion about the "Hot 20" but one about the way people have been treating each other. Blondella, dear...pay attention. I didn't lump all of Terragen together. I have disabled my ebots so that I don't feel obligated to visit just those in my favorites. There are many fine artists in all galleries, and I find particular enjoyment in T. but would I ever post there??? Not in this lifetime. There are too many people who leave mean comments. Markal, if they haven't left any for you it must be because you don't get in the "Hot 20" much. TerraDreamer, Carolyn was bashed in T. way before Poser. If it was important enough I would go back an copy and paste some of the nasty remarks you make. Okay...so you don't think they are nasty..fine. Leave them for each other. Have a ball. As for offending people, well the hurt dog yelps the loudest.

Check out your comments on images posted there. Maybe not yours personally, but check them out. As of late, Patt aka Snow Angel. Before that, who comes instantly to mind is Tony...y'all REALLY did a hatchet job on him...Classy lady...need I continue???? Go look for yourself.

Well, here we go again. I am going to tell you exactly what I think about the Terragen community. I have seen some images and posts there that blew me away. While looking at work there, I have also seen cruelty and just plain mean and nasty people that I have never seen in any other community. I used to visit there quite often, but I don't any more just because I have seen the "In Crowd" hurt too many people. They act like a bunch of predators. No problems until someone who isn't in their "tight community" gets an image in the "Hall of Shame" AKA "Hot 20" (another hot debate IMHO) When a new artist or someone weak in the program comes in, they are hit with such force, and critisism that they knock them clear out of the community, degraded and embarassed. I have a Terragen program. I like to play with it for my own pleasure. You know what? I will NEVER buy a retail version (Did you here THAT, Renderosity??) simply because I don't have anywhere to post safely. While I am sure they are a "tight bunch", it feels more like they are an "exclusive bunch". Snobs if you will.A clique, just like in high school. I fail to see why any community should feel they have a right to treat "newcomers" or "strangers" the way that they do. They are rude and arrogant, and I, personally will avoid them at all cost. I do have my favorite artists in there, but because of the way they act, I don't have much respect for them. I am sorry if I offended anyone, but if I did, you probably deserved it. The ones who don't act like that know who they are, and this was not meant for you.

I have found that painting isn't one of the things Photoshop is best at. Art Rage is a really good free program for copying and painting. http://www.ambientdesign.com/artragedown.html

This sounds like what Poetry.com does. You give them your work, and in return, you get the "notoriety" of being "published", and THEN you get to buy the BOOK!!!!....with your work that you paid to have put in. My daughter was ten when she was "PUBLISHED"....I am a little older and wiser

And Thus...I rest the matter in your capable hands. Thanks Nick. :))

Jocko, it may all be solved for now, but it rears its nasty head all of the time in different forums and by different "artists". I think the faults of the Hot 20 far outweigh it's benefits. My observations.

Jocko, I think you are so funny, and such a good person to take all of this with a grain of salt. IMHO, the culprit is the Hot 20 itself. Lets get rid of it, and there won't be any more issues. It just isn't fun any more.

I understand your feelings, but I think it is time for a solution. Lets vote the Hot 20 out of existance, it it is an option. It is a breeding ground for dissention. Can I get a "whoop whoop???" lol

Happy Thanksgiving from North West Tennessee! Randee

Yup. I am finished with this discussion. The topic is MOOT!

I think that this is getting out of hand.