Do whatever you can Ohki, no hurry ANY help is appreciated! Thank you!

Peter

No Ohki, I'm still on PP2014 :(

Yeah - scripts are a good example.

Just go to Poser's native runtime and arrange the scripts that come with Poser to reside in a different folder hierarchy in the ScriptsMenu folder.

Then write your own "mainButtons.py".

Now reinstall Poser:

• your "mainButtons.py" gets overwritten by the default file, and your "ScriptsMenu" folder is blasted to smithereens because Poser re-installs all scripts in their default location, ignoring your custom setup and thus practically duplicating everything. Good luck with clearing the resulting chaos!

• this also happens with items in the (remember: we're talking about Poser's native library here, not your own external ones!) library in case you made changes there: Everything is re-installed in the default way, ignoring your custom setup!

That's what I was talking about.

Regards, Peter

WandW posted at 3:27AM Thu, 13 February 2020 - #4380119

I did not uninstall. It went like a normal Service Release......

NEVER trust any code that installs anything automatically! :(

After more than ten years of using Poser, I made this drill my mandatory procedure:

1. Make a FULL backup of the Poser program folder!

2. also make a FULL backup of any files and folders saved in "C:\Users{mysername}\AppData\Roaming" (i.e.all folders related to Poser)

Then I run the update / reinstall and let it do whatever it wants to do. If something is broken I can always copy the broken settings/files/libraries back. Usually that remedies all the frills and glitches Poser still (!) has.

HTH

Peter

your "Favourites" are always saved in the native Poser runtime. This is the place where your main Poser.exe is installed, e.g.: "D:Programs:SmithMicro:Poser1:1Runtime:Libraries:Collections" -->> OR! "D:Programs:SmithMicro:Poser11:Poser11 Content:Runtime:Libraries:Collections"

So what you MUST do is search for your old favourites, and copy them to the new Collections folder.

Three(!) problems though:

1: Your "Favourites" aren't actual poser files! They're just shortcuts to the file, created and read by your operating system and accompanied by gthe original thumbnail of your source file. To add more confusion, there are differences between Windows and MAC shortcuts, so they can't be interchanged.

2: ALL your "Favourites" (remember: they're just shortcuts!) are saved with an ABSOLUTE path(that's done per your OS and can't be modified). So if you modify your system setup and change drive letters (e.g., name former drive "D:" as drive "E:" = your shortcuts will probably become unavailable!

Solution: NONE. You eithermust rebuild your "Favourites" from scratch, or edit the path of every shortcut manually, using your OS "properties" option.

3: as long as you don't bind the library where your "Favourites" are stored, they won't be recognized by Poser anyway, thus your "Favourites" list will remain empty!

I hope this will help you, in one way or another?

Peter

**n.b.:

THIS ABSOLUTE CHAOS of runtimes that come with Poser MUST be eliminated ASAP!

Why have two different runtimes (three!! if you add the "Downloads" folder)?

Make it ALL ONE (1), (repeat: ONE!) runtime, and all the confusion about files not found is GONE.**

**n.b.2: Did anybody ever notice that text formating of this forum is FUBAR?????????????????

Looking forward to that!

Most of my programs are only patchwork comprising code snippets I found else where, because that's how I learn best. Sites such as wxpython.org are almost useless for me because they presumably address professional coders (which I'm not the least) and they rarely have working examples.

So any collection of working code snippets is always welcome :)

Peter

b.t.w. :

Reading the USE_COMPRESSION from the Poser.ini file works great. PROBLEM SOLVED on my end. Thank you again!

Thank you for your reply!

I've spent some time today playing with yout lib, and it surely looks very useful. I hope it gets incorporated in PoserPython with the next version!

B.t.w., I would really LOVE to see the library made PoserVersion-independent because I still use PP2014 for many tasks where P11 is (to say it in a friendly way) somewhat "quirky". But of course I understand that you can't support all older versions, esp. since they changed the Python version in (iirc) P8.

But have a look at the forums: The P8 forum sections are as dead as a Dodo... So I believe catering for those few zombies simply won't be worth the while :D

On the status of the Poser preference file, I believe that it does get saved the moment the user clicks OK in the preferences dialog.

**Damnit, I just checked, and you're right! **Lesson learned: Never take anything for granted what you previously only believed...

Another project of mine is to parse, load and save poser files without the current restrictions of Poser's parameter filters.

That sounds interesting, never heard of such filters. Could you please explain what they do?

Part of the process involves checking whether a file is a compressed format before opening and reading it, or opening it in compressed mode to create/overwrite a pose file.

Well, at least this time I'm not the complete wxPython.Idiot(self, MyName) because I already learned how to do that...

I'm happy to share the code which deals with such, if you'd like to see it.

Sure I'd like to! One never stops learning, and it might be enlightening to see other coding styles!

Cheers!

Peter

Hello @anomalaus:

thank you for posting your libraries. I downloaded them and will have a closer look at them to see what they can do for ME.

I said "ME", and that's the problem as I see it:

As long as a user doesn't have your library, of course he won't be able to bind them, thus making any script which uses them (a-hem)... a bit useless?

I saw you already have the Rendo "copywrong" :D notice in the documentation, so hopefully they may become a part of Poser future distributions?

In the meantime, I think I will use a workaround:

Of course I could also parse the .ini file to find out the recently set compression setting. But for a script of less than 400 lines, this would be overkill.

One more problem is, the .ini file is only updated on Poser program termination, afaik. So IF the user has changed his compression option while still being in a session, the .ini file won't know, and neither will I.

...........................................

I decided to make a "feature" of this instead:

Let the user decide for each pose whether he wants to write a compressed file or not, regardless of the General Preferences settings... :)

Thank you again for your help!

Peter

FVerbaas posted at 2:06AM Mon, 20 January 2020 - #4377172

(...) it takes just the real bone angles from the selected figure, including the effect of the pose dials and nothing else that later can cause havock elsewhere. (...)

Thank you Frans, that's exactly what I want to accomplish with the script.

Of course I know that Poser does read both formats, and that I eventually can convert the pose files either way later anyway.

I just thought it might be a nice extra if the script could detect automatically how a user has set his compression option.

I have a list of "poser.ProcessCommand()" codes which are a great help when accessing the UI, but it was a WIP at the time I got it, so I hoped that someone had discovered a code number since then, or any other neat trick to get that info without much ado...

Peter

MartinX posted at 11:58AM Thu, 09 November 2017 - #4317642

Most won't even bother to read chapters when they can just make a forum post and fellow users will give them the answers they looking for.

Yes that's the world today: "Im just too lazy to waste my time reading a manual by myself. I rather go to a forum and let other people waste their time to solve my problems."

Very nice, really.

The reasons for the limbs moving differently are the different joint centres of the base and the conformed figures.

You could try "Copy Joint Zones From..." for the conformed gargoyle(s), but that would also copy the joint zones for the fingers and thighs, and I doubt that it would work nicely.

Thus my suggestion to create separate figures for the gargoyle's limbs, because if you conform a "forearms & hands only" figure the problem of different joint centres can be avoided because the gargoyle's forearm directly conforms to the forearm.of the M4 figure.

Peter

This thread just made my day! Thank you. :D

(Sent from my AyePhone using CRAPPATALK)

Yes it can be done.

If you want this only for your own use, you can do almost everything you like. However if you are planning to redistribute it, you should make sure that none of the "holy" geometries is included!

Instead you must modify your pz2 file in a way that it loads the original geometry as provided by the vendor (DAZ M4, the gargoyle etc.) Make sure that your new figure won't work without the original geometries!

Is there a way to chop off the hands and feet (garish) and keep the rigging and morphs?

You could do that in the setup room: create a new figure from the hands and feet, but that's a very tricky procedure and if you make the least mistake Poser (at least PP2014 in my case) immediately crashes. However, if you finally managed to create separate figures for the hands and feet (make them separate figures for left and right, just a hint!), you then can load the new figures into place, make the original (human) body parts invisible and then conform your new figures, one by one.

When it comes to keeping morphs, I can't really say.

It depends on how heavily you modify the mesh, but my guess would be that you'ld either have a try with the "Copy Morphs From..." function in Poser, or in the worst case having to redo them all over again.

What you've started with this thread is a really complex topic, so don't expect any easy solutions! However it's an interesting topic, and I'ld be much interested in what other users come up with.

You never stop learning.

Peteer

That's a good and honest intention. But you should also think about advertising your site so it becomes known in the community! So a sort of "official" banner might be in order. You and me can make one ourselves and link it to your site, but not all people can; so a simple c/p template might help those a lot!

Peter