The scene was rendered witn Vue 5 Infinite, but this is standard lighting (no HDRI or such). I have added some quadratic lights (one in each ice cube) and two additional point light to increase the reflection on the glass . The glass texture is a composite one : two very similar glass mats, orientation dependant to avoid a too important symmetry of reflection on the left and the right part of the glass... attempt to use bump to simulate a wet effect on the glas and the straw....

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Excellent work ... I love the liquid texture with bubbles....thanks for the 'starfield tip'... good idea with the palm shadow...

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Select the width and height you need in inch or cm ... the size you want to be printed on paper for example... then select the dpi ...Vue will calculate the width and height in pixels.... take care that your printer can print in such a resolution to obtain the right size ... For example, when you want to publish a picture, the professional standard is mostly 300 dpi ( this is a printing standard, not an 'on screen' standard ) ..... You only have to choose the width and height in cm or inch ... and the dpi. I don't really understand what you mean with Poser ...

The dpi parameter has no sense if you render in pixels... a 40004000 pixels picture is allways a 40004000 pixels pictures... The dpi parameter has sense if you render in inch or cm width and height ... dpi = dot per inch :-)

I'm tired with this thread. I'm disapointed to be in cermit's link list... I have never asked fot that ... I'm sad to read words like : ' Your link list Cermit. Without checking it i can say it shows that there are cliques.' I don't want to be members of a clique... if my understanding of english is good enough to translate it correctly .. specialy coming from wabe ... I have a real feeling of friendship for you Walther :-) but it's nonsense to speak about 'cultural differences'. And what about ' To me, the effort to create a landscape that is indistinguishable from a photograph in any travel agency brochure seems somewhat self-defeating ' Ok ... since months I have not allowed users to rate my pictures because I think it's a nonsense... no meaning Since this thread I will reconsider the 'Allow comments' .... May be soon I will stop post here ... :-(

he he ... you're right... lighting is the most important thing ... so it's easy ...

Bad news... yes ... bad news...

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Interesting thread... I'm not a lawyier but here are some questions . 'Intelectual property' ? Is that what we speak about ? Because the first question for me is : Copyright... ok ... but what is the object (if this is an object) that is copyrighted... Some different situations : If I'm a painter and have created a oil painting. I have some rights on this object. And it's easy to understand that there is an original, the true painting. This object is fixed on a wall in my bedroom (if I'm Patrick Merminod) or maybe in a museum (if I'm VanGogh or Picasso). Copy the original painting is possible, but very difficult. A very gifted cheater may reproduce the original painting even from a photo of my painting. If I'm a musisician, I can copyright a song. But what is a song ? This is not really an 'object' like the painting. In the French or Swiss laws, I think that you have to register a score and the first 8 bars define the melody. A melody is then an abstract object. You can sell the score, and you can buy it. But you don't own the melody. Each time you play it in concert, you have to pay the author and the editor for this. So even if you gave the rights to an editor, you are stil the owner of waht we call the 'moral right' in the french law. You can transform the melody in some way : play it with a guitar or with a piano, and even transpose it, this is the same melody and the auhor is still the owner. For a numeric creation this is very different I think. What is the copyrighted. Suppose I create a scene with Vue 4. I have a .Vue file. If I import it in Vue 5 and save it, the file obtained is not the same because the format is not the same. Even worth if i could import the scene in totaly different software. For example, export the scene from Vue in Lightwave format. This is the same scene, but not the same file. So you can't copyright the source file the same way you do for a song . You can't copyright the jpeg file neither as suggested by Phantast because this is not the only format you can save the render. Impossible to give a complete description of the final picture because you can save it in BMP or Jpeg and even with different compression ratio... So the final object (a file can be seen as an object) has no unique description. Even reverse engineering is useless. So my question is : what is copyrighted ? The idea ? What is important for me is what is original in a creation. So this is not possible with a two clicks scene. All those kind of questions are disscussed in the WIPO - World Intellectual Property Organization. It's central headquarter is here in Geneva, two miles from my home... May be I'll ask these guys what's the matter with our thread :-)

Mhh... some of my scenes are in the Vue 4 Pro sample CD. My personnal point of view : this is not only a question of copyright... but a question of fairplay as well ...You can easily imagine it's not 'funny' to see your work (usualy hours of work) used and 'copyrighted' by someone that claims it is his own work. When I gave the right to e-on to use my work, I asked the peoples that created some materials or object I used myself, even if all that stuff was freely downloadable on their site for example ... As Agiel said : don't hesitate to ask. It's free and easy. And this is the only way to be sure. The most important thing for me is that the Vue community stay as friendly as today ... Sincerly Patrick

A HUUUUGGGE THANK YOU :-)

Quelle productivit... et quelle qualit... superbe ...Merci, merci et encore merci ...:-)

Don't answer ... it may be 'fishing' ... don't give your password ... may be a virus or hacker's attack ....

oh ... ne pas oublier de consulter le backroom du forum (voir le petit lien sur le haut de cette page )... et bonne chance .. Patrick