Is that the actual size of the render or did you scale it down?

I dont have them I am using a demo.  I wish I did have them and I know they can not be compared, but at the end of the day, results are results and time is time. I was hoping that it would render a tad quicker than it is.   As I said above I dont mind waiting 25min to achive about the same results for a render than would take 4 min using Mental Ray.  I have seen some nice renders in Poser 6 and have been playing with poser for the last few weeks.  My expectations where that the render side of poser 7 was better optimized.  St this time in speaking I cant get a render done at all.  It gets 50% and then freezes. Im sure once the update is done alot of things will run smoother.   

As for the car, great car but I think its pusing it for poser.  Polycount is too high and theres no way at this time I have 4 hours to render one picture to see that I dont like it and sellect another lot of settings that will give me the results im after.

The price difference is huge but then 3ds Max dose everythink at  professiional level.  Modling, Rigging, Hair, Fur, Dynamics, Aninamtion, and Rendering.   All I need in my pipeline is Rendering, Hair, Cloth.  Poser does so much more than just rendering and is a extreemly good value for money, but if I cant crank thoes settings up in the renderer then im at a total loss.

Thing is iv been demoing the high end programs Max and Xsi and see nice results but the price tag is huge.  When I saw that poser 7 is rendering cars i thought that this could be a cheaper alternitive.  I cant wait this long for renders, its gona slow me down too much.

Il try a render on a G2 and see what it produces. 25min for a high quality render I can handle but the same results in Max would take about 4 min to do.  Now I like to make machanical models as well as characters so this car is a good test for me.  My car I made is over 3 million polys and renders in max in 7 min.

Im using a single core processor.  I can render in Mental Ray extreemly fast compared to this.

Poser just would not render any more.  At 30min I cancled it.  Remember this is just a area of about 120 x 120 and it had done only 10% of that in 20min thats is crazy.

My pc cant run it pmsl.  P7 is a resorce hog.

Now without putting a downer on things its still posible is it not that a VAT and parcle force bill can come through the post?

Waheee! just got it from parcle force about 30 seconds ago, same no extra charges, im amazed.

Thats great to hear Shadowdancer.  Where abouts in the UK are you, and how much did parcle force charge you for delivering it?

They cant charge no more than 17.5% so it would work out £15 for vat plusRoyal mail postage I rekon about £10.  £25 not very nice to have to pay out though when your shot on cash.

Come on there must be one person in the uk that has their by now?

Well if thats the case then alot of people have been riped off.  I paid $37 for this not  low priority batch shipping.

Well at this rate Id most likly have saved a little money for VAT by the time it comes early next year.

Depends how the parcel is marked as to what classification it comes under, Books, software, educational or a gift.

Last time I got anythink from the US I had it delivered to my door by Royal mail.  They should pick up the package along with the VAT bill.  I got charged £28 on the door by Royal mail that was including thei postage charges and a fee to pick it up.

Now  according to USPS my order which should have been shiped Global Express Mail should have a tracking number but I havent got one?  The tracking should only expire when it gets into the uk.

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Tracking information is available for Express Mail® mailpieces only (including Global Express Guaranteed®* and Global Express Mail®*).

Thanks for you input I may need your experties again as im learning all about the nodes and how to making my own materials.