Good. Not to mention links to sexually inappropriate material.(Plus excessive obscenity, though I don't think that's bannable- it sure is slapdownable!)

...oh, yeah, and lingerie, once. ;]

Solid. (...she says, feeling very small and alone....)

"[Insert Pithy Saying Here]"

I just downloaded it, so I'll be trying it today. :]

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=133031&Start=1&Artist=Micheleh&ByArtist=Yes

That's where I'm going, actually- I want to work out the easiest and best way to import poser figures into Moray (likely Poseray), then to write a good basic tutorial on using Moray with POV for building scene elements, lighting, texturing and rendering.

Make that 21. Personally, I was rather surprised when I noticed that the monthly Marktplace Flyer only highlighted a very few items. I would far rather have a simple list of all new items for the month with a title and link like: "Conforming bananas- a bla bla and bla (link) which would give everyone a fair go as far as their small advert. I also think a seperate forum for Mp announcement and update would be a good thing, for three reasons: 1. remove some of the "baggage" from the poser forum for those who are after the learning aspects. 2. make it easier for merchans and such to post updates, announce new items, and get feedback 3. open up the marketplace a little. When most or all of this sort of posting is in the poser forum, it gives the impression that it is the only app used in the MP. What about Bryce, Vue, 3ds, and others? Oddly enough, most "market" posts which are placed in these forums seem to be shown the door. I think opening up the MP more for all program users would increase sales and input- a good thing for everyone. My two cents, and one-cent-off coupon. ;]

Yeah, that's been one of the "hot topics" for some time. Postwork or purist? I think one of the difficulties with the "purist" position is that while Poser is an excellent human modeler, and a great scene creator (with effort), it has an extremely poor renderer. I would never use the native renderer for anything other thatn test runs. The alternatives? One, render in Poser, and enhance the image in Photoshop or similar. Two, use an alternative renderer. Unfortuntely, the available alternatives are often more expensive then Poser itself- Bryce, or Vue, for instance. And if you do use one of these for scenes and rendering, the respective "purists" here complain that you are cluttering their space with Poser output. A third alternative is to buy a more capable renderer, such as Mental Ray, but that's kind of like buying a gold box for copper jewelry. I couldn't afford it. I'm working on a fourth alternative now. (Not to be secretive, but as soon as I get a few more ducks in a row, I'll share. I'm in the just-an-idea stge right now.) As for the original question- I don't think the tools matter so much as the artist in this one. Beautiful work is beautiful work, no matter how it's done. We should encourage each other to do our best in any and every way, not waste time deriding others because our tools are better than theirs. The tool doesn't make the artist. (That was a general comment, btw. I'm sure you have been nothing but courteous with fellow artists, and are simply trying to help with a well-known point of contention.)

Carpe Fischei?

Good points. ow! Sharp, too.

Exactly.

"Take this conversation to the Tavern folks you'll have friendly company." I dunno, Ironbear just bought Terry and Guiod presents, and I know for a fact there's no baseball team....... ;]

"That aside, it is a future possibility." I'm nominating you for the "patience of a saint" award. ;] "C&D, love it or hate it, was a part of this site to many. Unfortunately the actions of a few caused it's demise, and now even those who used it properly are having to suffer the consequences." Yeah... this may sound funny, but when this happened, I was kind of thinking "what did I do? I was being good!" chuckle

I know, Clint- I wasn't trying to sound like I was dictating to you, really. I have been upset, too, by the virulent tendencies that took over C&D. I was just stating that I hope the better elements can carry on. Sorry.