I know what you mean. And the more I work with this guy, the more daunting the task seems. You guys are right. I don't know if this particular guy will ever be ready for the marketplace. Maybe just a freebee...maybe. I've spent many days on him and much more will be needed. I want to start over.

I understand. I know there is a lot to learn. I fortunately do have the time to invest but not solely on something that cannot be released for some time. But I will do it. And I'll do it right. My asking the tile question was only for comforting, I will make sure it is user friendly. And I'm not going to release anything half-ass. Just in the past two weeks, I've learned volumes. It's crazy. I've been doing the texture thing for nearly a year professionally but much longer unprofessionally. So I may be new to some of it. But it won't stop me from getting experience and putting out the best possible figures that I can. With this whole figure making, I hope to bestow upon the community new and exciting things that will inspire and be enjoyed by thousands. I may sound naive but I really don't take it lightly. I know that there is so much that I don't. But I will. ;-) Thanks man, Chris

Gareee: I did not try that yet but I will. I've been trying to get some textures together still. But if I scaled him properly. Meaning, if I imported then exported him. What then. Cr2, point to it then it should work? I need some time to absorb all this too. Do you think it will take months if I work at it 60hrs a week? ;-) As far as the texture mapping goes, do you have to have user-friendly ones or can I just do the tiles?

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That's hot! Great work on the duds. That shirt looks incredible. As far as sizing goes, I didn't compare. But he is infatessimal when I import to C4D from Zbrush, but perhaps he is still overscaled. I think I can see him which means he is bigger than v3 or P4 characters upon import, I thought he was to scale but he must not be. I actually never made him any bigger when I worked on him, I just zoomed in to avoid sizing problems later. Well I got the sizing problems anyway. ;-) Why does it have to be this difficult?

Well Miss Nancy suggested that I import and basically filter through Poser without anything and create the model from that. I'm not sure if it's duplicated the mesh but maybe. I exported the parts but maybe those parts were double, maybe that explains that. When poser makes an obj, it differs (textwise). I think the cr2 needs that to talk to it. The cinema 4d direct export has different text at the top and throughout.

stonemason: yes I made sure the cr2 was pointing at the correct obj. I'll explain in one sec. Spanki: I'll talk to you direct and really appreciate all your willingness to help. Very good workflow. Gareee: The original out of cinema called OG_Base would always come in, when written in to the cr2 in both places, it would be huge and not work. So I import OG_Base at 100%, place on floor, etc, then spawn props, then export those parts to a new obj called OGa. OGa was then written in to the cr2 and it worked perfectly except for some minor IK problems that needed fixing beforehand. OGa.obj is huge though. Somehow it almost trippled in size.

I know what you're saying. But when I checked or I should say, when I viewed them, they were not checked. I took a look at the hierarchy and saw that my right and left foot were not in the proper area. So I moved them to under the left shin and right shin accordingly. Still figures/inversek unchecked. Then re-saved to the library. Still came back with the feet out of whack again. Once I adjust the hierarchy it works. When I tried creating a new character from the Hierarchy menu it didn't respond. ?? Also my object is huge now. It went from around 8mg to 28mg.

Miss Nancy, you take the trophy. Ok, I tried the cr2 replacement and failed miserably. BUT. . .I filtered the Grouped Cinema 4D object through Poser without any rigging whatsoever. Exported each and every part. Started new. Clicked on the cr2 with previous rigging and JPs pointing to that filtered thru Poser object and VUALA. It remained intact. Now I just have to fix the stuck to the floor feet and he's going to be a figure!!! . . .now how do I do that? adjust the cr2. Or remake it somehow?

That's a good idea MissNancy, I'll rename another cr2 like you said. Also, no. I always imported the obj, then immediately boned him with the JPed rig that I did, then saved immediately to the cr2, never saving it as an obj from poser to the geometries without rigging him first. Are you saying, import the obj. Then export it to geometries? Then import from the geometries and then rig it, then save it?

I appreciate it Bob. I have a few folks on the case as we speak. I've looked for object problems too but UVmapper did fine with it and PHI builder said "looks good" so I think I'm alright there. About that STOMP thing? I looked for it with Google and went through a bunch of pages and couldn't seem to locate it. Would you happen to have a url? I never autogrouped the bones either. Yes, it's disgraceful. If I import the obj. then attach the bones, it behaves fine, but once it's saved, all is completely different. Besides for an IK thing with the feet sticking to the floor.

Yep, hierarchy checks out. All groups check out too. Nothing showed up as ungrouped or double grouped. Maybe the abdomen chest groups aren't right but would that make other parts come together? Poser takes the rightThigh and makes the top part the right buttock. Would the JPs force the new obj to conform to its needs?

Thanks. . .we'll crack the case

I'll check into stomp. And for the cr2 referencing thing? Yes, it does refer to the new object both times. The cr2 name !OG refers to a new obj. named OG! with bad Poser re-grouping. If I reference the original on the second instance with the good groups, then save it again would that work? I guess I'll find out. Nope didn't work. Tried replacing one, then the other, then both. My grouped original is the right scale but shows up immense when it's plugged in. When I scale it down it completely screws up when any pose is attempted.