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Just FYI, I am reading and saving these jewels. There is one question I have not seen answered yet...what about the .exe files, should I just run them if I have them in the runtime I want them to be?
Thread: A newbie reading your forum | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - I've never had good luck relocating the texture files. Like brynna, I prefer to leave those alone ;).
Laurie
Tnank you,
I will move the minimum for now, but it does seem nice to have everything I might want for one character to be under that character.
I know I would like everything based on M4 to be in the same Runtime as M4, and if the 'owner' of a file is not evident when I want to use it, that will be confusing.
Joey
Thread: A newbie reading your forum | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - > Quote - FANTASTIC! Thank you so much. This is much easier for me than the manual. This will keep me busy for a long time.
You're welcome.
The essay is very old. I did it before V4 came out. If you find any links that are broken, please post the broken link and I'll see if I can find a fixed one for you.
I decided to do external Runtimes based upon your information. I have an extra hard drive that I don't mind putting a lot of stuff on to.
So, do you end up having a Runtime for each chararcter (morph?) or do you have one for each main character, like M4 and make characters based on him as children but in the same Runtime?
If you make an M4 Runtime, and make all of the variations into their own Runtime, will the variations work once you load Michael? I guess what i am asking is if it is Ok to take parts for one character from various Runtimes that are not related structurally?
I tried the first one. I have Zane as a zip. So I extracted it to a temp folder, then picked the various folders with the same name in the template and moved each of the Zane folders to their corresponding place in the template. For instance, If there was an empyy Runtime in the Template, I deleted it and moved the Runtime for Zane into its now empty spot. There were folders in Zane that did not have corresponding folders in the template so I moved them to the same relative path they had in the extraction.
When is it Ok to change the name of a folder and when it is taboo? Is it only the direct children of the Runtime folder that have to keep their original names?
It seems weird to me that a body variation (is this a morph?) should be in the Pose folder instead of in the character folder, but they are sometimes, right?
I was able to load Zane after loading Michael 4, but not easily. I had to try severl files before one of them worked. There were Rem files, and other various extensions, I don't remember which one finally worked, But, even then, his little black shorts stayed on very dimmly for awhile. I added a chair prop and moved Zane over to put his hand on the chair. Then, I stopped, worn out.
Joey
Thread: A newbie reading your forum | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - Welcome :) Some information to help you along :)
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/tutorial/index.php?tutorial_id=155&page=1
I apologize for any broken links in the following
The following is a great deal of information to process, but it's only meant as a guide and not to be memorized. I have it broken up into sections. My advice is to read it through once, print it out and keep the print out next to your computer for reference as needed.
http://drgeep.com/p5/cr/cr.htm
Here are some links to some great FREE dynamic clothing:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=mapps
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=svdl
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=Stegy
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=carib98
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=teyikung
It's also possible to make conforming clothing into dynamic clothing:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/tutorial/index.php?tutorial_id=868
And it's possible to take a conforming outfit and work with it in the cloth room so that parts of it act dynamic.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2517340&page=1
ORGANIZATION
Never install anything directly to your runtime. Always unzip / install to a folder on your desk top so you can see what is in side and what the folder structure is.
Organization in Poser is very important. Libraries grow quickly and it soon gets to a point where you can't find anything.
So far as organization goes...
You have 2 options that can help you with organizing and being able to find things:
1. Create sub folders inside the library folders.
This is the preferred method for many. It uses one single runtime with lots and lots of sub folders within the main library folders, in order to organize the content. The learning curve is minimal. If you can right click and create a new folder and drag and drop, you can do this. The learning curve is knowing what folders you can move files around in and what folders not to touch.
You can move around the files inside the library sub folders.
Don't move, touch or rename files or folders in the top level of the library folder that carry the name of the merchants, or the "Morph" or the !DAZ folder because those are morphs and need to stay where they are.
Just work with the standard ones inside the Library folder such as camera, faces, hand, pose, props, hair, lighting, character.
Leave the files inside the geometries and texture folders alone.
Right now you have a hodge podge of files for various figures in each folder plus props, poses, lights etc.
Open the character folder and create sub folders for each of your figures IE: V3, V4, M3, D3, Aiko, Apollo etc. Do the same for each of the other library sub folders. You can also create other folders too, such as "Poses" or "Props" or "Backgrounds" or "Hair" etc.
Then go through your files in each of the library subfolders and move them into the appropriate folder for the figure they belong.
Things like lights, and poses and hair and props are universal items really, and can be used across figure, so I like to have those separated instead of filed by "figure" because I often use V3 poses on Aiko and hair for Posette on V3 etc.
You will run into a problem for items that are for more than one figure. Like where do you file those? For exxample an outfit that is for V3 and M3 and Aiko and SP3: where do you file them? If you put them in the V3 folder, then you forget that they can be used for M3 and Aiko and SP3 too. It was this complication that prompted me to move onto using external runtimes (described below).
I did it this way at one time and it worked well enough,well except for items that could be used on a few figures like I described above. I decided I wanted even more organization, and I didn't like having one huge runtime because it was impossible to really burn it to a CD/DVD without having to break it into bits and pieces. Plus it took Poser forever to load because the runtime was so big. So I tried option 2 below.
**2. Multiple External Runtimes
**
This is my choice for organizing my installed content. I did the first method first and it worked for awhile, but as my content grew, it became cumbersome, so I switched to multiple external runtimes, which works out great.
It's really pretty easy. The problem is that most people over think it.Just remember that an external runtime is exactly the same as the runtime in your Poser folder, only it's just sitting in a different location.
It functions exactly the same way.
And files are installed / added to them in exactly the same way.
And they have the same folders in them as the main runtime does. Well almost the same folders. Scripts for example have to be installed into the main Poser runtime and won't work from an external runtime.
Here is a sample of an external runtime. Simply download it and unzip it. You will have a folder called "Runtime_Sample"
www.divshare.com/download/8531562-1f6
Find a place on your hard drive that you want to have your external runtimes living. For me it's on my partitioned drive D.
Make a folder called "Poser Runtimes"
s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii124/Acadia_ca/
Then simply copy that sample runtime you unzipped into that "Poser Runtimes" folder and make as many copies of it as you want to. Change "Runtime_Sample" to whatever name you want. Here is what I named some of mine:
s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii124/Acadia_ca/
Then all you do is simply install your content into whichever runtime you feel it fits best into.
Once you have finished installing your content look in the Runtimes where you have Daz characters such as V3 or V4 etc. Go into the Library folder and look for the !DAZ folder. Make a COPY of that folder and place the COPY in exactly the same place in the main Poser Runtime.
Poser looks there first so by placing a copy of them in there, you are helping Poser out. Don't delete the !DAZ folder from your other runtimes though. That defeats the purpose of having external runtimes, which is not only to allow Poser to work faster, organize your content better, but also to not lose your installed runtime content in the even of a crash because hopefully you have also saved your external runtimes to a couple other places for easy access in case of the need to reinstall.
Hope that helps. If you have more questions, just ask.
Oh yeah, never install anything directly to your runtime. Always unzip / install to a folder on your desk top so you can see what is in side and what the folder structure is.
So far as organization inside the runtimes, continuity of naming goes a long long way.
Let's say for example that LaurieA gave me a beautiful clothing package for V4. The package consisted of the following:
Dress
Shoes
Purse
Hair
Poses
When I get that file I will unzip it into a folder on my desk top in order to see what is inside. Here is what I find
Dress inside a folder in the character folder aptly named "superstar dress"
Shoes inside a folder named "LaurieA" inside is another folder named "V4" inside is another folder named "props" inside are 2 more folders: 1 called "V4 Flats" and finally inside that folder are the shoe files, the other called "V4 Purse" with the purse file inside.
I find the hair in the hair library, deep inside several folders as I did the props
And finally the poses for the figure are found in a folder in the Pose Library called "Gotta Have Fun" and another folder that simply said "dress textures"
Now if I were to install all of that into my runtime I wouldn't have a clue later on when I went to look for stuff to use from that one package, of what went with what!
Which is why it's important to open things onto your desktop and look through it and rename some of the folders that the vendor created.
The example of above is a very real nightmare that for some reason many vendors seem to do. Another nightmare is using there real names as names for the folders instead of their vendor name. That only adds to the confusion.
Here is how I would sort out the mess above while it was still on my desktop.
LaurieA - Superstar Dress
LaurieA - Superstar Dress
LaurieA - Superstar Dress
LaurieA - Superstar Dress
LaurieA - Superstar DressYes, each folder in each libary is now called the same thing. BUT I now have no doubt that when I do to use the superstar dress, that I will know what I'm looking at when I open up each library.
You can get even more organized.
FANTASTIC! Thank you so much. This is much easier for me than the manual. This will keep me busy for a long time.
Thread: A newbie reading your forum | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - may seem scary now but you'll soon get the hang of it, coming from a blender background you have a big headsup on a real newbie ;-)
as for a character(morph) not loading on to m4 , do you have the required morphs for it to work?? there is some things that have to be done in order or they wont work, a lot of the character morphs need the basic morphs injecting first in the pose folder there should be a folder for the daz m4 ++ morphs, inject the morphs you need (or all of them lol ) and then the character should work
How funny, inject the morph :) See how easily one takes for granted that everyone understands the current jargon. It could take me a while to decipher this wonderful advice :)
Thx
Thread: DAZ FEB MADNESS! | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - Happened to me with Poser Pro 2012... Intro price was good... then like 69 bucks 2 weeks later.
I am still looking for the $69 poser pro?
Joey
Thread: Tablet Poser | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Thread: Tablet Poser | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
I have wanted something like this on my ipad forever. I like to make things for Second Life and I can't do that on the ipad either. I think what we could have is some piece of it though. Like, if I could import a figure into the ipad and paint it there that would be great. Maybe you can't have the whole experience on the iPad, but it would be nice to be able to do some productive work there. So far, I have not found any really useful app. Although I have managed to use Art Rage to create shirts for Second Life. There are many times when I am sitting on the train, or in a coffee shop waiting for someone that I would like to have such tools. As it is, all I do is read forums in these situations.
Thread: Is there any software that organizes poser files or installs them correctly with | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
The file systems are killing me too. That and the dependency of one character for another. Michael 4 and morph++ seem to be required for lots of other characters. Do they have to be installed together? I have some files that I have installed under a Poser runtime, and as a DAZ 4 file at the same time. I have no idea what effect that has, nor do I know how to remove them. As much as I love the Poser and Daz characters, it may be more difficult than I will end up having time for.
The latest thing I have tried is based upon a tutorial in Poser, which says to create a runtime library directly on your C drive. I have tried to be careful because I saw from the beginning that file structure was difficult, but I fear I am creating a mess and so far a lot of it is proving to be unusable for me. I tried M$ and a freebie Liung, but no matter how I combine them, I can't get Liung to appear.
Joey
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Thread: A newbie reading your forum | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL