Before this thread is completely GONE in lala land, if it isn't already...I best post my own opinion....I should have long ago but to be honest I hesitated. [The most advanced Poser figure in existence is a reality].....this statement really bothers me, and I know it also bothers others, cause it's arrogant in it's very suggestion. A poser character is only as good as what one can and will be able to create with it and people's opinions are subject to vary all around, many folks still do not like Victoria and yet she is "supposed" to be better....I think it would have gone MUCH, much better had Dina been introduced as "one of the best things to come around for a while"....even that, although a "confident" statement...is far more realistic in expectations and just sounds far less intrusive and less cocky than what has been "hailed" here. I have a feeling that THIS alone "may" be one reason why this whole Dina thing is being blown way out of proportion and is getting so much flack....was it really necessary to advertise her as a suggestion of being the "best there is anywhere", because THIS is what I read from this. I will not dwell on that though, cause there has already been enough shit on this thread already to last a while. I will now turn towards this razzing by fishbilly whatever.....um....is that necessary??? First off, why the phony username? Second....why such an arrogant bunch of posts at all....to me, fishbilly's additions to this thread are just blatant obvious dissentions upon the people that created the model and therefore hold no water! If you had an honest opinion about this character all around there would be no reason to go alias and take cheap shots like this....it could be up front and honest....and believe me I know all about alias, this is not the time when your trying to make a point. You know, I will say one thing here, there are a lot of things sold in poserland all over, many characters and models are only variations and morph alterations of already existing meshes....at least with this character/model, she is an "original" which is something we really can never get "enough" of for our softwares. For that, no matter who created her or designed her or markets her....she should be 'welcomed" and not spit on with dissentions. It is one thing to have past greivances with various folks for whatever reasons, if that is the case, like say with this fishbilly....but that should have NO bearing on their creativity whatsoever, that's just wrong. If something is a lucrative and "reasonable" offering then bias should be left out of it. There is a lot of worse things we can buy for thirty dollars and Dina is actually something that has much potential in that she is a "unique". As for "looks"....since this has been brought up....I will suggest also that she is NOT my cup of tea...but again, nor was Victoria , by any stretch...not until some very wonderful enhancements were accomplished all around. Besides....what I may not find my cup of tea, someone else may find extremely exiting and lovely....and why, oh why must every poser gal be some stereotype woman that looks like or resembles Barbie....we have more than enough of those. Personally, I think we need MORE variety all around, and this is a good attempt at something way different....for that Dina should be commended and not put down. Now many may question my motive for being here....I am trying to give my "honest" opinion all around....that is my right....like I said, I do not like the arrogant AD this post starts out as and for that it asks for a debate at the onset as far as I am concerned.....but on the other hand....I think some are being a might way too harsh too....this character should be given a chance if just for its' individual uniqueness alone, but also for the sake of "creativity and talent" that has obviously gone into her....regardless of the bad/poor choice of words to present her. Dina does deserve better than what I have read in this thread.....that just from what I SEE and nothing more.... On that note....have a pleasant day all around.....and good luck....

Well....this post is now so far back and "buried" it hardly has the "presence" it "should" have for such a signifigant thread...yet...it should have been moved to C&D long ago. Hmmm? I think I know why it was not but I will stay mum on that. I really didn't want to be here...not at all, I wanted nothing at all to do with this and I wouldn't even know if someone...some folks hadn't directed me to this thread yesterday already. I don't even want to add my two cents cause I know I will either get flamed, roasted or ignored totally....but remember this...I WAS "directed" here...there ARE plenty of folks VERY concerned!!! Why?? For good reason.... Let's talk...please....I wish to do this as "peacefully as possibly" cause I know this is like a small insignifigant gnat approaching a gang of hand holding spiders....but sometimes those with the least to lose are the best sacrifices....with all due respect I now leap into your webs...to accomplish what...I really don't know..?? Let me be frank here..... Ya know...this would actually be a fine thing...if it were about quality...about the community....about EVERYONE...if it weren't just a disguised form of getting rid of the little folks and making this surefire "money making" community something ONLY for certain self appointed big shots...attempting to create a monopoly for themselves... THIS is NOT about quality...it's about WHO will make the money...and you folks KNOW who the BIG wigs are and you BIG wigs have decided to "hold hands" for a "common cause" so you can all "reap the benefits" of the "wealth" here and NO one else or very FEW will benefit except those that REALLY COUNT!!!!! I don't really get this at all....the "cocky, ferocious attitude" alone overall here is enough to turn anyone off from this guild thing unless your an elitist egomaniac who already has a SURE foot in the door of this "castle of highbrows"....and this post should have been "moved" to the C&D long ago...and it hasn't...and I don't get it...I don't....or do I..?? Someone "directed" me here ya know....some did do that...there is much concern about...and me...I wouldn't even know or care cause I have no bounds on any store...but my gut feeling..."my gut feeling" is this is a lovely LOT for all those that "count" in this "club" and no one else....and that is what I see and others see and that partly comes from just the unfeeling, uncaring cockyness hereabouts in this thread....this will really help those self appointed ones here that wish to have a "monopoly" of "making MONEY" and only "them" making the "money"...(oh yeah)....not the community!!! And if "I"...who has very little to do with this charade can SEE this....you betcha that there is something very FISHY here! I thought a lot of you folks had changed...I even felt friendship towards some of you, (again),...I was fooled it seems, (again),...I was....dopy me...I thought folks were different...man...I was sooo wrong..it just got way WORSE!! Your all holding hands...and for money! I don't believe this!!! Can I call you greedy bastards without getting myself banned??! Probably not...so I will withold on that. Not that I don't reckon I will most likely be banned already or in big shit here for speaking MY opinion.... And you folks try to make it "for the community"...bah!...sure...always "for the community"...poppicock!! You's just want to get the most BUCKEROO'S out of this poser treasury here and all over as much as possible....nice plan...and you's just managed to find a new sure way to do it and make it sound so "caring" and sweet....but you forgot to leave out that egotistical arrogance! Poser has become a very LUCRATIVE business all around and this is just another very crafty take over scheme of the moneymaking kind....like there's not enough to go around...or what?? Like wtf?? Give the little folks a chance?? No way...too much at stake, a dollar here, a dollar there...this way you's can even pick and choose who counts and who don't...like some big grubby outfit of sharks...give me a break...wake up people, you don't have a light year!! I don't get it...you would think that at least you's wouldn't be so damn ARROGANT about it...how many folks like cocky attitudes...like c'mon....is it that sure a thing?? You folks sure think your all the cat's meow and everyone hasn't a prayer in hell without you's, that's what I see....so tell me...even if those that do COUNT for something...if they don't join...are they gonna be scum..?? That's what I see. I also see how eventually in time a few folks here will get bitten in the ass AGAIN...only who will suffer AGAIN...none of you big shots...nonono...of course not...it will just be the community having to pick up the pieces left behind, crumbs....to grow again and again and again.... Shame....now you's can take your pot shots at me....or just IGNORE me like crazy...just remember...I held back...someone else pointed me here so I am NOT alone in my thoughts here...NOT AT ALL....kill me off and there's others.....I just couldn't keep my mouth shut no more....this stinks....and I am outta this thread now....quality my ass...it's ALL about MONEY...and "who's" gonna be making it!!! I'll pat your back if you'll pat mine...very common phrase....eh...?? Whatever works for you's...... sigh Sorry there wasn't any nicer way to say all this....I really hate even being here on this thread......it reeks of arrogance, elitism, and subtle threats all through it,...read "between" the lines people's!!! Take care....be well....

......hoo boy......sigh

....egads...not again.....total bummer.......sigh

Wow.....on all counts.....and poppi...your still not normal...your not pop..pop...popping yet...

Glad to see you back MikeJ...I was concerned...see the C&D......cool....so glad your okay!!! ;-)

Seems I still may use my RadArt personification from time to time. Like some aromas, it tends to linger no matter how hard the wind may blow at times....

My heart goes out to you always and forevermore....

Hey Krel...need I mention that it is actually both Traveler and Krel who provided the awsome morphs to me that made Molly look as she does...with a combo of both she ended up getting that look...and then I added my own two cents, hehe. I need to say here that about half way through the comic I did get burn out from working too long and hard and thus kinda got a bit corny, but that's my own opinion on something I think I could have done a lot better had I taken my time more and eased off a little instead of going gung ho. You can see the transitions, once Molly is in the palace till near the ending when I got a little better again cause I had some rest, hehe, in-between there I took a lot of short cuts and had way too much dialoge that kinda was not even necessary, trying to do too much way too fast, it caused us a lot of burn out and also caused it to end. Thanks for input, Take care.

Your welcome and yup...all the way to its' unfinished ending... ....word of note cause some did ask...this is only an MT, it will make a Molly face at anywhere between .520 and .620, (I forgot to put that in the readme), but the original posette has oodles of other morphs to make her the way she is in the comic and I also do a lot of postwork to get looks I cannot get with poser...to get the face on the thumbnail it takes time...and lighting... Take care ;-)

Thank you!

JKeller wrote.... [Hey, RadArt... did you know there's a Compaint & Debate forum here?] Um no, not at all??? Thanks for enlightening me....;-)

Kate, is there no way you can save yourself a bit of money by somehow using the standard P4 clothes, such as the T shirt and such? It would need obvious adjusting but it can be done with a lot of tweaking and some post work. Just trying to help, not sure if it does though ;-)

(heh)...;-)