LOL Questor! Yeah, I like toes too, and you are right, for monsters and various aliens, a good set of decent vertices down there make all the difference in being able to morph you up some fine clawfeet ;) But no one answered my question. Would the purchase of Dina be more appealing if cool characters for Dina were created?

I've got Dina on my "think about it" list... for one, I like how cheap she is... I mean come on, she's only 30 bucks. I'm glad people are starting to put more images up using her, it's helping me decide... http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=89381 Picture by Daffy34, that image alone bumped Dina up a bit higher on my list. I think Mehndi is right though... If Dina (the figure, not the woman) didn't look quite so "horsey" in the face, and weren't quite so broad in the shoulders, more people would probably be singing her praises... she's by no means a perfect figure, but like people have said before, the potential is there... I agree too that claiming she's the "most advanced" figure in existence is, in a way, asking to be bombarded with these types of questions/complaints... but maybe she will prove herself worthy of the praise. :)

......hoo boy......sigh

Mehndi... yup. Or lots of morphs. Vicki comes with tons of them. From what I've seen, every Dina looks pretty much the same.

I for one plan to attempt it :-).

Geez...Here we go again. Haven't been around much after the 11th for personal losses, and probalby won't post much for awhile, but I have to throw my 2 cents in. I have Dina, and personally I like her. Does she have the most beautiful figure of all time, well maybe no. But she is an incredibly easy to pose figure for dirt cheap in my opinion. Yes, I have both Vickis. Did I like them straight out of the box? You can be sure that is a no. But they took work and additional morphs. Ya, Vicki 2 has tons more morphs than Dina, but then look what you paid for them. And just like with the original Vicki, there will be some to come around for Dina. And yes, You can make Dina's breast smaller, as I have done for the work I was using her for. As far as not being realistic. How realistic are any of the models we use? No offense, Jim, but how many "real" women look like SMV? (Not that I wouldn't mind, mind you ;) I still like to see SMV all the same. It is a variety thing. And yes, some of us "real" women have breasts like Dina's. I might not have the linebacker shoulders as someone called them, but I am one of the few that are blessed/cursed with a rack like that. And as far as whoever commented that Vicki's breasts were more realistic, maybe you ought to have a set of your own. (That's a joke, mind you, I just don't see the realism in Vicki's default breasts without additional morphs.) Will I use Dina for everything I do. Of course not. But for the price of her I have been EXTREMELY pleased with her potential. And as for the polygon count. It hasn't seemed to be a problem. I have three computers. One is a 64, one a 128, and I tried her on all three and haven't had a problem on the faster two. And only a small hang up on the 64. As far as the seam on the texture included. Geez. You all complain that Vicki doesn't come with a texture, and then tear apart one. Ya, maybe they should have shown that shot. But for the price fo the model with a texture included, I personally don't care. I don't much care for bald women anyway. Have to get back to work now. But all I have to say is that if you don't care for her, just don't buy her. Why try to trash her? If you don't know, check out some of the renders scattering the galleries and talk to people who own her. If you like her, wonderful. I am with you. DSI, I personally think you did a great job, and am more than happy that you didn't inflate the price of her. She is worth more than the money I paid. Angela

I recall when Vicki first was released, how there was this same howling and gnashing of the teeth that she was dog ugly. Can probably find old posts doing it if I do a search, ironically posted by the same folks who now praise Vicki to high heavens and howl and gnash over Dina. This place never changes, and the howlers and gnashers howl and gnash over anything ;) I recall when till some really drop dead gorgeous Vicki characters were made and put up for sale, there was alot of doubt in Vicki too. Times will change. Give the morph artists time to work their magic, and soon there will be beautiful versions of Dina out there, then she will be "acceptable" as well. All things in their time.

I agree to the two last replies.I dont think i buy her now .Ill wait how she will develope in future. I see the posibilities in her , but i want to see what support she will get by others,with morphs, clothes,textures.. And her look, a matter of taste.....!!!

"but how many "real" women look like SMV?" Gee, very few, the thing is, how many average women parade down the catwalk, or become Miss America? SMV is supposed to be a 1 in a 1000 figure, not an all around type (I think Vickie II is still the best for that). Anyway, I don't know if anybody will see this, as the thread is getting hard to open (to many big pics, I think), but I don't know about this whole "scan a real women in and you will have a real digital model" thought. To me, any digital model must have things emphised and others minimised to look correct in a render, it is the whole "the camera makes you look fatter" thing, and it is the skill of the modeler that creates the best model, not the one closest to being "real".

Before this thread is completely GONE in lala land, if it isn't already...I best post my own opinion....I should have long ago but to be honest I hesitated. [The most advanced Poser figure in existence is a reality].....this statement really bothers me, and I know it also bothers others, cause it's arrogant in it's very suggestion. A poser character is only as good as what one can and will be able to create with it and people's opinions are subject to vary all around, many folks still do not like Victoria and yet she is "supposed" to be better....I think it would have gone MUCH, much better had Dina been introduced as "one of the best things to come around for a while"....even that, although a "confident" statement...is far more realistic in expectations and just sounds far less intrusive and less cocky than what has been "hailed" here. I have a feeling that THIS alone "may" be one reason why this whole Dina thing is being blown way out of proportion and is getting so much flack....was it really necessary to advertise her as a suggestion of being the "best there is anywhere", because THIS is what I read from this. I will not dwell on that though, cause there has already been enough shit on this thread already to last a while. I will now turn towards this razzing by fishbilly whatever.....um....is that necessary??? First off, why the phony username? Second....why such an arrogant bunch of posts at all....to me, fishbilly's additions to this thread are just blatant obvious dissentions upon the people that created the model and therefore hold no water! If you had an honest opinion about this character all around there would be no reason to go alias and take cheap shots like this....it could be up front and honest....and believe me I know all about alias, this is not the time when your trying to make a point. You know, I will say one thing here, there are a lot of things sold in poserland all over, many characters and models are only variations and morph alterations of already existing meshes....at least with this character/model, she is an "original" which is something we really can never get "enough" of for our softwares. For that, no matter who created her or designed her or markets her....she should be 'welcomed" and not spit on with dissentions. It is one thing to have past greivances with various folks for whatever reasons, if that is the case, like say with this fishbilly....but that should have NO bearing on their creativity whatsoever, that's just wrong. If something is a lucrative and "reasonable" offering then bias should be left out of it. There is a lot of worse things we can buy for thirty dollars and Dina is actually something that has much potential in that she is a "unique". As for "looks"....since this has been brought up....I will suggest also that she is NOT my cup of tea...but again, nor was Victoria , by any stretch...not until some very wonderful enhancements were accomplished all around. Besides....what I may not find my cup of tea, someone else may find extremely exiting and lovely....and why, oh why must every poser gal be some stereotype woman that looks like or resembles Barbie....we have more than enough of those. Personally, I think we need MORE variety all around, and this is a good attempt at something way different....for that Dina should be commended and not put down. Now many may question my motive for being here....I am trying to give my "honest" opinion all around....that is my right....like I said, I do not like the arrogant AD this post starts out as and for that it asks for a debate at the onset as far as I am concerned.....but on the other hand....I think some are being a might way too harsh too....this character should be given a chance if just for its' individual uniqueness alone, but also for the sake of "creativity and talent" that has obviously gone into her....regardless of the bad/poor choice of words to present her. Dina does deserve better than what I have read in this thread.....that just from what I SEE and nothing more.... On that note....have a pleasant day all around.....and good luck....